[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

good music, good lyrics, good band... well, the first 10 albums or so.

I think that about sums things up really. Why couldn't you have gotten here earlier?

[Everyneurotic]

i didn't imply the voice wasn't something i liked about them, mark e smith's voice is as much part of the music as the bass and the drums.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

you are thinking too much. brilliant music... tons of repetition with subtle changes.. or songs like nwra where the members only play when they feel like it.. some of the best bass lines I've ever heard from any band, ever, not to mention the creative use of two drummers. Musically they're great; the lyrics range from brilliant to nonsense but they sound good over top of the mess.

Definitely. It's the music that I get into more than the lyrics. The backing on Smile is just relentless.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

you are thinking too much. brilliant music... tons of repetition with subtle changes.. or songs like nwra where the members only play when they feel like it.. some of the best bass lines I've ever heard from any band, ever, not to mention the creative use of two drummers. Musically they're great; the lyrics range from brilliant to nonsense but they sound good over top of the mess.

mark prindle also said that "only play when they feel like it" on nwra.
funny cos i never assumed that was the case. i thought it was all planned.
such a fucking song.

when i lived on the other side of town and was heavily into the drugs i remember walking around one night at about 4am along the train tracks with one earphone in my ear playing that song and then singing it but changing the lyrics so they were about a music promoter who used to put on gigs in my town - managed to improv it all. the dude was this upper class rich anti capitalist fashion punk dickhead. good times.

[atsonicpark]

shift.

[ni'k]

SHIFTUAH!

[ni'k]

Tony was a business friend
Of RT XVII
And was an opportunist man
Come, come hear my story
How he set out to corrupt and destroy
This future Rising


The business friend came round today
With teeth clenched, he grabbed my neck
I threw him to the ground
His blue shirt stained red
The north will rise again.
He said you are mistaken, friend
I kicked him out of the home


Too many people cower to criminals
And that government pap
When all it takes is hard slap


But out the window burned the roads
There were men with besom sticks [1]
The fall had made them sick
A man with butterflies on his face
His brother threw acid in his face
His tatoos were screwed
The streets of Soho did reverberate
With drunken Highland men
Revenge for Culloden dead
The North had rose again
But it would turn out wrong
The North will rise again


So R. Totale dwells underground
Away from sickly grind
With ostrich head-dress
Face a mess, covered in feathers
Orange-red with blue-black lines
That draped down to his chest
Body are a tentacle mess
And light blue plant-heads
TV showed Sam Chippendale
No conception of what he'd made
The Arndale had been razed
Shop staff knocked off their ladders
Security guards hung from moving escalators


And now that is said
Tony seized the control
He built his base in Edinburgh
Had on his hotel wall
A hooded friar on a tractor
He took a bluey and he called Totale
Who said, "the North has rose again"
But it will turn out wrong


When I was in cabaret
I vowed to defend
All of the English clergy
Though they have done wrong
And the fall has begun
This has got out of hand
I will go for foreign aid
But he Tony, laughed down the phone
Said "Totale go back to bed"
The North has rose today
And you can stuff your aid!
And you can stuff your aid!

Note: [1] A besom is a long handled broom with the head made out of pieces of twig lashed together.

[PAULYBEE2656]

His heart organ was where it should be
His brain was in his arse
His hand was well out of his pocket
His psyche is in the hearth

Has a sneer which was weird
Some time ago
Heard Kraftwerk in '81
Has a WASP synthesizer

A real male, make-up as well
Sophisticate
WASP synthesizer
Didn't get far
In computer teaching job
His dream girl sings adverts for Renoir perfume
A fancied wit that's mere imitation of D. Bowie
in "Man Who Fell to Earth"

Whose causes and rags were phoenix-like
They were vaudevillian-like
They were comfort blanket-type
Dodo in fact
Pho-do in fact
Photo impact

He had a weak pisser
And one night at darts match
Decadent sandwich quaff
He showed he was a big fan of double-entendre
Saw "Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World"
"Man Who Fell to Earth" "History of the World, Part One"
twice each at least twice each at least twice each

Mere pseud mag editor's father


Nobody ever gave him a good turn. What do you expect? He was always let down. They never wanted to let his action down. But also they wanted it sublime Sheffieldism and equality equally. He was always in the middle for him. On the fields. Brooklands. They said tone it down. We all understood him. But he is hostile.
We are the elite gangsters of the damned, criminals of the damp. You must come with us, and hunt down - the hostile.
For years they have believed we were inspired by the Holy Spirit and the work of God. They still recognize that many prominent N.C. members are wonderful people. They're warm, intelligent, but terribly misguided.
Slowly, painfully, he become disillusioned. They call us "shadowy." Anti-hostile. They demand to know, with a touching, naive faith of the individual. Hostile.
Many times, brothers, have they tried to discredit out gangsterism. And now we're old, the elite of the damned.
Anti-hostile.

[Toilet & Bowels]

i don't have a favourite fall song, but if i had to choose it would be picked from this short list

The Classical
Psykick Dance Hall
Fantastic Life
Leave The Capital
Before The Moon Falls
Spectre vs Rector
English Scheme
New Face In Hell
How I Wrote Elastic man
Just Step Sideways
Room To Live

[atsonicpark]

"Spector vs Rector" is so good.

My favorites are NWRA, Before the Moon Falls, Man Whose Head Expanded, everything on Slates, the first 4 songs on Live at the Witch Trials, Lay of the Land, Deer Park... too many to name really.

A hard band to get chicks into.

[PAULYBEE2656]

no xmas for john quys
garden
eat yerself fitter
kicker conspiracy
new face in hell
blindness
50 year old man
touch sensitive
mr pharmacist (yeah i know its a cover)
deer park
who made the nazis?
muserokis daughter
in my area
theme from sparta fc
bill is dead
nwra
the classical

i could go on........

[atsonicpark]

Never liked who makes the nazis? Good lyrics and uh.. harmonics, but it just doesn't go anywhere.

[schizophrenicroom]

as time goes on, i'm starting to find the fall very boring.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Never liked who makes the nazis? Good lyrics and uh.. harmonics, but it just doesn't go anywhere.

Peel session version, my friend. Much better than the cack-handed recorded version.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i don't have a favourite fall song, but if i had to choose it would be picked from this short list

The Classical
Psykick Dance Hall
Fantastic Life
Leave The Capital
Before The Moon Falls
Spectre vs Rector
English Scheme
New Face In Hell
How I Wrote Elastic man
Just Step Sideways
Room To Live

thats a reputable list from that era, id stick Wings and Neighbourhood of Infinity and Cary Grants Wedding and Muzoweri's daughter and A Figure Walks and well i guess it could go on forever, that was a fine period

[atsonicpark]

I cant believe I forgot to list c'n'c's mithering.

[demonrail666]

Two Steps Back
A Figure Walks
Smiles
Various Times
Before the Moon Falls
Fantastic Life
Deerpark
Who Makes the Nazis
Athlete Cured
Living Too Late
Blindness
Lay of the Land
Tempo House
Wings

[Glice]

Chicago Now
M5 (Peel session)
He Pep!
Masquerade
The Acute
Theme from Sparta FC
Dr Buck's letter
Insult song

Just to redress the 80s-centric balance a smidge.

[Everyneurotic]

too many to list, i'm not even going to try.

[ALIEN ANAL]

can someone link me a site to downlaod their tunes please