[Tweng]

will those humbuckers be sold seperately ?

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37

There's no way Fender would use an aftermarket bridge on a signature Fender built guitar.

I think they put Joe Barden pickups in Danny Gatton's signature Tele.

[acdc518]

mastery is way too small of a company to be able to make enough bridges for these guitars.

just get one from there site. waitlist is like 3-4 weeks i think

[Moshe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPxgC...layer_embedded

[e_s_d]

Hmm hmm... SY didn't start using JM's till the latter part of the 80's?... I never noticed that.

[jockme]

O Man. I'm going to be broke.

[e_s_d]

Still... The guitar Lee is holding in that video seems way more tasty than the signature version...

[Chris Lawrence]

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/gtr72.html

[Bal]

Originally Posted by Perfume-V

I wish these came with mastery bridges but those bridges run at $160 and would drive the price of the guitar up. Also MB cannot even keep up with their current orders so I doubt they would be able to fufill an order from Fender... yea it makes too much sense why they wouldn't be mastery bridges but I wish they were.

is there really such a big difference between bridges so that they replaced the fender ones immediatly?
im just curious here.. i have nooo idea about guitars

[Sonic Youth 37]

Originally Posted by Bal

is there really such a big difference between bridges so that they replaced the fender ones immediatly?
im just curious here.. i have nooo idea about guitars

The one on Thurston's is the Fender version of a Tune-o-matic. The same bridge is on my Mascis Jazzmaster and it ssssssuuuuucccckkkkksssss.

[tdbajus]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

haha...seriously, like who the fuck are you?

The Lone Ranger, a Jazzmaster on my back, and an understanding of inflation calculators. The price of guitars has remained sort of constant. Be glad you are not a cellist, and have to shell out 100K for your instrument. Not that I wouldn't want to have Fender rescind their 30% price increase. Sigh.

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37

The one on Thurston's is the Fender version of a Tune-o-matic. The same bridge is on my Mascis Jazzmaster and it ssssssuuuuucccckkkkksssss.

I have 3 Jazzmasters- a '64 with a Novak JM pole piece humbucker in the bridge position, and a mustang bridge. After 20 years of using the mustang bridge, you get used to it, though it does feel kind of cheap and flimsy.

I have one of the Mascis reissues. I put in a set of Novak jazzmaster pole piece humbucker pickups, and that crappy fender tune-o-matic bridge, which pops strings more than the stock jazzmaster bridge. The guitar weighs about a thousand pounds. Why do I play it all the time? Every time I pick it up, I write another song, until my back starts complaining. There are some drop-in bridge replacements I should try. Maybe I should tie some helium balloons to the neck and body.

My 3rd JM is a '63 body with an allparts neck on it, Lollar p90s, and a mastery bridge. I'm not sure how I feel about the Mastery- it is very well made, works the best out of all of the bridge replacements I have tried, but it doesn't sound right. Not sure why. I'm going to pop the buzzstop I had on that guitar, and see if it regains the sound it had before. Anybody else think the Mastery changed the sound of their guitar?


Also- I have yet to find a single place that has any of the SY Jazzmasters- sweetwater, guitar center, musician's friend all have no listing for them. Has anyone actually laid eyes on in a store?

[Sonic Youth 37]

I'm going to have to do something with the bridge, I'm think about trying wax dipping. The frets are just as bad. It feels like a bass.

[lo-fi suicide]

$1500 on ebay
thanks god i bought a normal AVRI yesterday

[hirsute_biped]

i am going to cross pollinate my posts on this topic:

i would like to have a look at the zine as well. it seems like these should be available to SY fans who are also guitar players/enthusiasts without purchasing the sig. guitars. i wanted to comment on this in the original thread, but never got around to it.

I am glad Fender recognized them, its cool that it happened, but I couldn't justify buying one. It seems like non-affluent players into the spirit of SY would be more into searching out and finding their own styles, innovations, etc...

Coincidentally, there was a recent reissue of vintage low-buget Harmony guitars like the ones SY used in the very beginning. check 'em out: www.harmonyguitars.com
you could get one of their reissue-vintage "H15 Bobkats" (or a cheaper actual-vintage one from eBay) , carve a bunch of X's on it, replace the bridge with a shattered drumstick secured w/ ducktape, attack w/ a file, and have a replica of the "battle scarred harmony" from the sonicyouth.com gearography! BURNING SPEAR!

A few years ago I bought a cheap vintage Harmony "H19 Silhouette" (yet to be reissued) which was the top-of-the-line solid body model by this bottom of the barrel low-buget company from the 60's. Its a little closer to the Jazzmaster than the "Bobkat" model, has tunomatic style bridge and JM-like tremelo. I put nicer tuners on mine, and it looks like these Harmony reissues have them too. The tuners on the old ones were the weak link (and the wooden bridge on some of them like the bobkats). Its really fun and has vintage weirdo cool vibe. Mine has some dings here and there, but I elected not to thrash mine like the youth did theirs. Maybe i would if i could afford more guitars. My exhaustive study of the SY gearography page and T's Harmony definitely influenced my purchase. 60's harmonys are cool but in the 70's they were bought out by some big conglomerate and moved production to asia, supposedly quality went downhill, and style certainly did.

For those who feel that buying/building cheap low-budget and/or strange guitars is more their route (i remember people saying this on the old thread (this thread)) here is a link to SUBWAY guitars in Berkley, CA, whose store I have not visited yet but is on my list of things to do. This cantakerous dude bought all the old part stock when the original Danelectro shut down, and has been building weird low-budget guitars according to his and his customers whims and eccentricities for approximately a generation:
www.fatdawg.com

also for custom building and parts, there is www.warmoth.com
they have jazzmaster bodies/neck/pickgurads/etc...

cheers to all

p.s. i am not excited by the sig. model's colors, black headstock, etc... it would almost have been cooler if Fender had done an exact replica of the dings and scrapes on some of their original jazzmasters like they did for the Jeff Beck sig. model, or Rory Gallagher i think it was. those guitars were seriously beat up, and looked cool. but fender charges a boatload of money for such uber-detailed "aging" treatments, which would drive the price up by thousands. since i'm not going to get one anyway, it would be more fun to look.

I have thought about trying to find a cheap "Drifter" LP-copy like the original SY monster and relicate their modifications/thrashings.

[RanaldoNecro]

Does anyone know if Thurston or Lee use either any CIJ Jazzmaster models?

[Massenvernichtungswaffen]

Originally Posted by lo-fi suicide

$1500 on ebay
thanks god i bought a normal AVRI yesterday

Hey man! You're Silentium VK from OSG, eh??
I'm ZenJenga on there (formally Skiptracer)

[ricechex]

Hey kids, i ordered the Lee Jazzblaster! I'm not normally into signature guitars so here was my reasoning. I have a Fender strat and wanted to stay far away from areas they both sort of roam, thus the diff take Lee has with his appealed to me. I am a bit concerned it won't sound enough like a jazzmaster but at the same time excited over the wide range humbuckers. One of the bands i play in does need some muscle where those pups should thrive. Also, the appearance is sick. Never thought i'd play a blue guitar but damn it's hot. The purchase just makes sense to me. I needed to enter a new mach phase in my playing and this should ser inspire me. I've been opining a jazzmaster for 20 years!

I'll let you know how it all turns out.

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band url: www.zigmanbird.com

[scott v]

yeah i'm curious...

i just built my own "poor man's" jazzblaster bought a fully loaded warmoth/all-parts body and electronics on ebay. it had epiphone P90 p-ups and i tossed those out (they were way too noisy, even with all the body cavity shielding it was worse than strat single coils!) put on seymour duncan humbuckers (stock ones from my squier jagmaster), i had a brand new 22 fret squire stratocaster neck that was just laying around for years and finally found a use for! it sounds ok, has just abit too much harmonics bleeding around because of those hi-gain humbuckers... its gonna need some serious setup action is its currently sorta high as i think i need to shim the neck (something i wanted to avoid entirely) as i got abit too much string buzz on the mustang bridge as the the string angle behind the bridge is not "steep" enough to counter the bridge buzz... spent alot of time setting it up already, jazzmasters are notorious for being a PAIN to setup and intonate...i did buy one of those "buzz stops" (s. malkmus has one on his jazzmaster) that go onto the tremolo system, but i'm avoiding putting that one on too because i hear it really changes the sound of the jazzmaster (losing the natural harmonics created behind the bridge) but it does rid the bridge buzz and adds sustain suposedly. i don't want to spend alot more money on this guitar and trying to get it so i can play something i can live with and i'm getting close, so getting a mastery bridge is outta the question... the one thing i'm willing to get at some point are replacement wide range humbuckers once the setup is good enough.

goto the Offset Guitars Forum... alot of good info to be had there...

[krastian]

Man, when I saw this thread bumped I was afraid there would be a link to Lee's Jazzmaster that I just scored off Ebay!! He he.

But yeah, it's time to move on from the Mexican Strat that my parents got for me in 1994.

Can't wait to get it.

[ricechex]

I like the the Lee guitar. I've only had it a few days and had one full band rehearsal, but it's very even sounding and clear, responsive, in all areas of the neck. It doesn't have that characteristic Jazzmaster sound as much as i would like, only slight negative, prob due to the pups, but so far lots of potential. Still getting used to it. Tomorrow i have reh in my heavier, more serious group, so I'll have a lot more to say after that. Plus i need a new distortion pedal. My old Tube Screamer isn't giving me enough juice at the moment for leads.

I think you'll dig the Lee. It's light, beautiful, and versatile as hell.