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Old 12.02.2020, 11:09 AM   #1381
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It's the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, 95% effective apparently. The government has ordered 40 million treatments which need to be taken twice so that's enough for 20 million people. So, roughly just under a third of the population. Treatment starts next week.
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Old 12.02.2020, 11:46 AM   #1382
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oh i just read that your regulators approved it first lololol

now i get what you meant

fine then— good luck with the mrna experiment, mutant!
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Old 12.02.2020, 11:54 AM   #1383
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Uh, you might wish to read:

Review report Corman-Drosten et al. Eurosurveillance 2020

It basically questions the validity of the science behind the most commonly used COVID-19 tests, thus drawing into serious questiuon the reality of the infection statistics we're hearing.
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Old 12.02.2020, 12:00 PM   #1384
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Due to the still pretty high infection rate, restaurants and businesses in the entertainment sector will remain closed in Austria until what looks to be at least January 7 - that includes gyms, for those that are physically inclined. Alpine cable railways however are allowed to open around December 24 already. And of course, churches are always exempt from any of the harsher measures.

There've been images of massive crowds lining up in front of the funicular last month (absolutely no distancing, whatsoever) and now it looks like the Conservative Party is once again trying to ensure that domestic ski-tourism is getting preferable treatment.

I wonder if it might have something to do with quite a few of their politicians demonstrably being in that business. Apparently, the 'rona can't get you when you're lining up to go skiing. Welcome to Asstria.

Sorry, needed to vent again. I'm all for being really careful and preventing exacerbating the already dire situation. But that should include being resolute in your measures and not dealing in preferable treatment towards stereotypical activities that still pose a risk and mostly just benefit specific parties.
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Old 12.02.2020, 12:05 PM   #1385
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oh i just read that your regulators approved it first lololol

now i get what you meant

fine then— good luck with the mrna experiment, mutant!

Bring on the drugs. Here's hoping to some side effects akin to some kind of permanent dopamine explosion. Pensioners will be treated first so it's all eyes on them.

It's quite surrealistic that it's finally happening: I'm daydreaming of pubs and gigs and...pubs and gigs. What else was there before the pandemic again?
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Old 12.02.2020, 12:58 PM   #1386
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Review report Corman-Drosten et al. Eurosurveillance 2020

It basically questions the validity of the science behind the most commonly used COVID-19 tests, thus drawing into serious questiuon the reality of the infection statistics we're hearing.

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Old 12.02.2020, 03:56 PM   #1387
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o man, you gave it attention— why didja?

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Old 12.03.2020, 05:20 PM   #1388
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Obama, Bush, Clinton to publicly receive COVID-19 vaccine

The point is to "prove safety" and "quell Americans' skepticism", but of course this could backfire: "Them pedophile deep state race war lizard people is gettin' the vaxxxine, but our Beloved Leader Apocalypse Fuckface ain't, so I ain't gettin' no vaxxxine!!! TRIPLE EXCLAMATION POINT!!!"
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Old 12.04.2020, 08:53 PM   #1389
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Old 12.04.2020, 09:17 PM   #1390
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The Australian fund is not $1,993 a month; that's total bullshit.
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Old 12.04.2020, 11:01 PM   #1391
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It's hard for me to do the precise math from here, given that I can't only consider the, let's say, "cheque" each Australian is getting as a relief from this disaster; elements like tax exemptions, if there are any, have to be factored in as well, and there's also the matter that we're talking about a federal country and not all regions may be implementing the same measures. What I can say with a degree of certainty, inasmuch as it's been published by several credible media outlets, is that the federal government passed legislation for a $1,500 per fortnight wage subsidy for eligible employers; fine print exists everywhere, though.

In any case, I bet my collection of Go-Between albums that the fucking pandemonium circumstances are considerably better for the average Australian than for the average Unitedstatesean. Or for the average mook in my own country, for that matter.
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Old 12.05.2020, 01:27 AM   #1392
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Pretending that the graphic above is accurate for a moment.

According to https://www.worldometers.info/world-...ia-population/, Australia has 25,629,323 people of all ages.

25,629,323 * 1,993 = $51,079,234,760/mo total spending a month for relief.

Pretend we've reached the 1 year mark of consistency with this number.

Australian government has spent $612,950,817,120 for the year, for funding relief for EVERY citizen.

According to just https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/21/trum...ense-bill.html, Sitting POTUS authorized $738 billion for the US military alone.

That said, according to the same population site listed above, the US has a population of 331,002,651 which is considerably larger, so if we were to try the same monthly, for a year, it'd cost 7,916,259,401,316 for the year.

All hypothetical, but population differences do matter when comparing responses to issues, as well as other "normalized" systems. Australia already also has their own elevated taxes that pay for these things like their healthcare system, among others.
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Old 12.06.2020, 03:34 PM   #1393
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Giuliani has it.

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Old 12.06.2020, 03:51 PM   #1394
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Giuliani has it.

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just saw!

i laughed

is this wrong?

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just saw!

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Brilliant!

William Shakespere among first Britons to receive coronavirus vaccine

and also

Next to Giuliani, Jenna Ellis contracts coronavirus as well
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Next to Giuliani, Jenna Ellis contracts coronavirus as well

 


And I don't even like Metallica.
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At long last, coronavirus vaccines are on the verge of being distributed to the public. But you might get charged an arm and a leg for it. Donald Trump has been setting up Big Pharma to gouge the public for a coronavirus vaccine. One company is planning to charge three times as much money for it as they would for other vaccines. (1)

Even as Trump leaves office, it's crucial that Congress step up to make a vaccine free for everyone. Otherwise it won't get to everyone and this pandemic may drag on even longer.

You may have heard reports that the coronavirus vaccine should already be free. (2) But that probably will not apply to any of the 30 million Americans who are uninsured, who will have to pay money they may not have in order to get the vaccine.

From a justice and equity perspective, it's wrong to make anyone pay to get a coronavirus vaccine. Doing so will also reduce the effectiveness of a vaccine by ensuring fewer people receive it.

As with so many broken aspects of American life, the pandemic has laid bare inequalities felt by communities of color. African Americans have died from COVID-19 at twice the rate of any other racial group. (3) Two-thirds of Latino households have lost jobs or wages due to the pandemic recession. The Navajo Nation has the highest per capita infection rate in the nation. (4)

Communities of color—hardest hit by the virus and accompanying recession—cannot be shut out of the solution. Nor can anyone who is uninsured or unable to afford a copay. The pandemic affects us all. It will only end when we're all protected.

Sign the petition: A COVID-19 vaccine must be available to everyone, regardless of ability to pay.


Thank you for taking action,

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1. CBS News, "Moderna charging far more for its experimental coronavirus vaccine than rival treatments," August 6, 2020.
2. Healthline, "How Much Will You Pay for a COVID-19 Vaccine? Here’s What We Know," August 11, 2020.
3. Inequality.org, "Racial Economic Inequality," July, 2020.
4. Salt Lake Tribune, "Navajo Nation hit hardest by coronavirus," June 1, 2020.
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