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everyone is entitled to have their religious beliefs as long as it doesn't interfere with someone else's rights to have their own. could it be more obvious? I don't really see what is so complex about this, it is that black and white by definition.
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The church and state don't require each other to produce catastrophes but they certainly make the task easier.
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I did not address your points because you changed the post and added them after I posted. What specifically was judgemental?
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Interesting you say 'produce'; the same logic that says war's good for the economy would probably say the same of catastrophes. Not that I'd necessarily agree, you understand.
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so because condoms break we should teach children that they don't work? so they have absolutely no knowledge of how to protect themselves? I am basing my comments on data from researches that I have been reading. I have seen videos of them telling kids that being homosexual is a disorder and should be treated. This is broader than the episcopal church and your personal group of friends and story with birth control, don't be so bias.
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I'm lactose intolerant and that hurt my feelings.
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Those beliefs don't necessarily appertain to state democracy though. I know there's quite a bit in the Torah/ Bible/ Qu'ran about serving God but also the state. In that context, you only get problems when there's a tension between state and religion, but I don't think it's necessarily a fundamental problem for either enterprise.
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As long as you can follow your religion and beliefs, why should you care if your neighbor is getting fucked up the ass or getting abortions?
or even worse, teenagers having access to birth control.
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Though, as par for the course, I remain politically skeptical and religiously quietist. |
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Yes. Now stop this nice talk and join me being angry.
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While state democracy doesn't demand religious activism, religious activism demands state democracy and only in those times when religious faith begins to fall into subjectivity and needs to reassert itself. |
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Fuck off, you massive prick.
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That's interesting. I've never been quite able to get my head around that concept. I read something by Chomsky recently where he was claiming himself as a left-libertarian but I couldn't really work out what he meant by it. Brilliant thread, btw |
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glice
this is not the time and place to try and turn me on
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oh, and in answer to the thread's initial question, lapsed protestant.
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That's not the first time someone's said that to me.
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The lapsed protestant bit, no-one's ever not happy to be turned on in my presence.
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Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you were a chomskyite just that he kept banging on about being a left-libertarian without bothering to explain how, or what it actually meant to him. Your saying that you're pessimistically left seems to be a common thing now. It's the old Francis Fukuyama 'end of history' concept, that the Right has ultimately won the ideological war and that all the left can hope to do now is try and make it a bit more 'fair'. Capitalism with a smile, and all that. |
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