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Old 02.19.2020, 09:12 PM   #141
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Old 02.19.2020, 09:59 PM   #142
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Liz just torpedoed Bloomberg. Right amidships in the ammo bunker. Sunk.

Biden, Bernie and Bloomberg should revisit Goin’ In Style.
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Old 02.19.2020, 10:00 PM   #143
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biden looks like he drank his ovaltine today. seems to perform better as not-the-frontrunner

bloomberg looking like a deer in the headlights... and warren as the headlights

little pete now as shit-flinger in chief

warren lied about amy’s “two paragraph” health plan. i checked the website, there’s extensive writing
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Old 02.19.2020, 11:33 PM   #144
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Didn’t read the whole thing (at work on a late night) but just gonna interject:
I wasn’t sure I wasn’t in mortal danger.
When is say “I drove myself” I mean I got there without an ambulance. Someone else drove me. It was night time, and I’d never had kidney stones before. I had no idea what was happening and felt like part of me was going to explode. So that’s why the ER.

But yeah, probably urgent care from now on.
aaaaaaaahhhh

fuck, must have been scary

yeah we can’t plan for every eventuality, especially with our fucked up system

glad you’re ok... and drink water!
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Old 02.20.2020, 07:38 AM   #145
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woke up with a debate hangover.

in spite of the surface entertainment last night, now it feels bad.

disappointed in pete and warren playing teacher’s pet. maybe they were accurate in their various criticisms of other candidates but that didn’t make me like them.

disappointed in amy just going back to her “i’m electable” schtick while letting the teacher’s pets pummel her.

disappointed in bloomberg who instead of presenting a plan called bernie a communist.

biden looked better in the first half but that’s not good enough to resurrect him.

bernard was okay at fending off attacks for the most part. for everybody else it was like a shakespeare’s tragedy where everyone dies in the end.
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Old 02.20.2020, 08:35 AM   #146
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woke up with a debate hangover.

… it was like a shakespeare’s tragedy where everyone dies in the end.

‘Twas ever thus.

S’why I don’t watch.
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Old 02.20.2020, 08:57 AM   #147
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‘Twas ever this.

S’why I don’t watch.
i can’t help myself. even cancelled previous plans when i found out they overlapped with this.

now i feel dirty

anyway, i had to know. and perhaps the upside is that when the general election comes the nominee will have been vaccinated.
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Old 02.20.2020, 09:17 AM   #148
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Bloomberg WAY RICHER Than People Realize
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Old 02.20.2020, 09:31 AM   #149
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bloomberg richer than lying slumlord heir donnie dotard hiding his taxes, for sure

bloomberg’s foundation fights global warming

donnie’s foundation buys him a golden toilet

go eat a trump steak
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Old 02.20.2020, 09:53 AM   #150
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It’s important to remember that no one won or lost anything last night. It was just a glimpse at the reflection of the DEMS and what they represent.

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woke up with a debate hangover.

in spite of the surface entertainment last night, now it feels bad.

disappointed in pete and warren playing teacher’s pet. maybe they were accurate in their various criticisms of other candidates but that didn’t make me like them.

disappointed in amy just going back to her “i’m electable” schtick while letting the teacher’s pets pummel her.

disappointed in bloomberg who instead of presenting a plan called bernie a communist.

biden looked better in the first half but that’s not good enough to resurrect him.

bernard was okay at fending off attacks for the most part. for everybody else it was like a shakespeare’s tragedy where everyone dies in the end.
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Old 02.20.2020, 10:01 AM   #151
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repukes stand for treason and corruption and pig ignorance, so don’t presume be qualified to lecture us
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Who was found guilty of treason and corruption?

Twice the Democrats proved President Trump innocent!!!

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Old 02.20.2020, 10:30 AM   #153
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exonerated by his own mafia

hence, repukes standing for treason and corruption

and you: pig ignorance
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exactly at what point did this forum turn into a place for defending the intolerable?

leatherneck always has been rightwing from the beginning so that's not a shock, but I have no clue how crazy this place got
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glad for the debate. I was sorta thinking Kloby, but the statements about her voting for Trimpiejudgies and Trimpienominees got me to look up her votes on them. FUCK, NO WAY!!
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glad for the debate. I was sorta thinking Kloby, but the statements about her voting for Trimpiejudgies and Trimpienominees got me to look up her votes on them. FUCK, NO WAY!!
didn’t she say the nominee came highly recommended by the obama administration?

i’d fact-check who and how, because pete was the one who mentioned the judges right?

he attacked everything and everyone at all times, so i’m not sure what’s what.

the thing about her “post-it” health plan was a huge fucking lie—well, more of an insult really.

what i’m sorry about is amy wasn’t better prepared to refute and sort of faltered on defense.



but like i said: vaccination!
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Old 02.20.2020, 07:21 PM   #157
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didn’t she say the nominee came highly recommended....

Doesn’t matter. After the noms Trimp has been putting up, any decent Dem would have under10% approve votes.

Part of the story:

In 2017, Klobuchar voted for John Kelly’s confirmation to Homeland Security secretary; Wilbur Ross as Commerce secretary; Mike Pompeo as CIA director, and later as secretary of State; Nikki Haley as U.N. ambassador; Elaine Chao as Transportation secretary; David Shulkin as secretary of Veterans’ Affairs; Linda McMahon as Small Business Administrator; Dan Coats as director of National Intelligence; Robert Lighthizer as U.S. trade representative; Sonny Perdue to be secretary of Agriculture, and more.

None of the other senators who are currently running for president – Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., or Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. – or have dropped out the race – Cory Booker, D-N.J., Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., or Kamala Harris, D-Calif. – voted in favor of those nominees.

In 2018, Klobuchar voted for Kevin McAleenan to serve as commissioner of Customs and Border Protection (CBP). McAleenan later served as acting Homeland Security secretary.


Some more:

As a result of her outsized support for Trump’s judicial nominees, Demand Justice, gave Klobuchar an “F” rating in its most recent report card for members of the U.S. Senate, noting that she voted to advance Trump’s district court nominees 70 percent of the time, and ranked 31st out of 47 Senate Democrats in voting to advance Trump’s circuit nominees. Only Bennet ranks worse.
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Old 02.20.2020, 08:03 PM   #158
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holy shit.

that’s the kiss of death.

i guess these gladiatorial contests are good for vetting.

i guess i’m all they way back to

WARREN 2020

lolololol

i wish she were more positive in her vision because to me she sounds like she’s crying all the time and i get that she’s trying to warn us about all the serious trouble but sometimes you want an inspirational leader not a deliverer of jeremiads.

and in this you gotta give it to bernie: he might rage and point the finger but mostly he presents a vision of his utopia. “no premiums, no copays, no deductibles.”
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I should start checking on any libertarian options, to see if any are worth it. I'm once again not voting Trump, but dunno who I'd vote for if I go Democrat at the time.
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Gotsta go Dem. only chance of getting rid of Trimp.

One thing I think would help Warren, who is a known quantity (unlike Booty) is an acknowledgement that M4A is aspirational and that she will advance health care for the under served in whatever ways she can.

The other thing I think would help ANY of the candidates would be to arrange for and announce some of the people that they would want to have as their veep and cabinet. We can look at the total packages for help in our decisions...
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