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Old 09.06.2006, 10:24 AM   #141
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they have it on film apparantly, wonder when it will make an appearance?
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Old 09.06.2006, 10:26 AM   #142
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I think the cameraman's waiting for the highest bidder.
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Old 09.06.2006, 10:41 AM   #143
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Old 09.06.2006, 10:44 AM   #144
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No I'm not. I studied nature conservation and film. I know damn well what I'm talking about.
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Old 09.06.2006, 11:02 AM   #145
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i repeat, would you like someone you don't know to drag you and touch you in front of cameras just so he can be on tv?

neither do the animals.

animal abuse doesn't just mean ripping legs off.

Yeah cos, you know, animals are completly aware of camereas etc. etc.
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Old 09.06.2006, 01:59 PM   #146
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crocodiles would as soon kill you and eat you as they woudl take a nap

there is no way in hell a human being with no weapon can "torture" an animal as large and well armored as a crocodile
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Old 09.06.2006, 02:34 PM   #147
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I'm aware that Steve knew and cared a lot about animals, but his approach to study them, was quite unethical. Didn't any of your parents ever tell you not to take baby birds out of their nests. Do you know why? Touching animals unnecessarily, can contaminate or infect them with human odours or disease. They become vulnarable to preditors and sickness. The only reason why Steve stands out from the rest of Australia's many naturalists, is the fact that he had a certain way of presenting his show to the viewer. It's a sensational production, which at times, was very carelessly executed, endangering himself, the animal in question and sometimes even his own family.

David Attenborough on the other hand, is more professional, when dealing with wildlife. He doesn't go around shouting and making things more exciting than they already are. He hardly ever comes in direct contact with the creatures he studies, and gives them enough space to carry on with their daily chores.
I didn't wish him dead, and for his family to have to go through this, but he must have pushed it a little to far this time and paid the price.
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Old 09.06.2006, 03:41 PM   #148
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the cops have the video. i fell sorry for his family, especially his dad.
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Old 09.06.2006, 03:55 PM   #149
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just a day late on this thread but gotta say i am not a fan of his, nor a lover of his style of nature programming but he has done shedloads for the cause and it is such a sad and tragic story. god bless the irwin family.

i really do hope that the film is released sensitivly. he did always say that if his death was caught on film that it should be shown to highlight the power of nature and the fragility of human existence. crocs rule steve!
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Old 09.06.2006, 03:58 PM   #150
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getting killed by a stingray is so rare, makes me believe this was an accident and not an attack by the ray. these are non aggressive animals, i guess we will know details sooner rather than later but now is not the time.

anyway. just wanted to put accross my point of view.
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:14 PM   #151
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wah? you step on a stingray it will fuck up your leg pretty good... he must have been fucking with it from above and got stabbed (i think "stung" is not really the appropriate word for one through the chest)
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:16 PM   #152
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what happened according to the crew was that the ray was cornered, and that is the only time they really stab upwards with aggression, which is why the barb stuck into his chest and stabbed his heart.

terrible way to die.
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:17 PM   #153
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he was NOT "fucking with it".

he was swimming above it, snorkeling, and the ray felt threatened
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:20 PM   #154
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well... if cornering a stingray is not fucking with it then i dont know what is. (by fucking with i didn't mean "sex". though i've heard people do it in micronesia.)

the thing though a stingray will act like a scorpion-- i've known people who stepped on them accidentally & got fucked in the leg. small stingrays fortunately. now a big one... tough luck...
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according to eyewitnesses, Irwin was just snorkieling over the ray, and the ray felt cornered, but Irwin was not there actually messing with the ray or even focusing on it.

shot through the heart and the ray's to blame, it gives love a bad name
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:26 PM   #156
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according to eyewitnesses, Irwin was just snorkieling over the ray, and the ray felt cornered, but Irwin was not there actually messing with the ray or even focusing on it.

shot through the heart and the ray's to blame, it gives love a bad name

ha ha @ shot through the heart.

oh so he was hovering over it. yeah you want to stay the fuck away from being over one of those. scoot to the side by all means. but some times they are hidden in the bottom. they are tasty to eat though. they make a fine soup.
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:30 PM   #157
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This story's changing by the minute.
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:35 PM   #158
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I can picture a backlash against stingrays in Australia; people everywhere start eating stingray soups in honour of Steve Irwin; and they call it having an Irwin. Sales of stingrays are going to go up.
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Old 09.06.2006, 04:37 PM   #159
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