[!@#$%!]

yeah the 2nd half wasn't as good, portugal didn't counterattack so much in the later part, but yeah, okay. spain-france was a sad spectacle.

today (it's noon here!) i hope it's going to be awesome. i really love italy, they are a good team, buffon is a fucking titan, and pirlo a genius, and crazy balotelli with all his faults is a huge talent, so anything can happen of course. i would like germany to win and have put all my chips on them for the fantasy league, but am i sure they will win? hell no.

im wearing a white tshirt though! lololol

[pokkeherrie]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I'm an enormous fan of Xavi and he's probably been my favourite player in the world these past few seasons, but, whether it's fatigue after a long season or simply not being in form, he's definitely not firing on all cylinders and I think that's a major reason behind the teams overall lack of bite up front.

Wasn't that a quote by Del Bosque? "It's important that Xavi plays well, because if Xavi plays well then the team plays well" or something like that.
Pedro looked alright in my book. At the very least you could say that he was more dangerous than Negredo (as was the corner flag).

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Saying all that, the very fact that Spain have reached the final, however unspectacularly, without a functioning striker is pretty impressive.

There's a lot to say about Spain's "attacking weaknesses", but just looking at the amount of goals they're not doing any worse than in 2010. They only scored 8 goals in 7 games during the world cup! (I still can't get my head round that)

So in that regard Spain already outdid themselves by scoring 8 goals in their first 4 games. Shots on goals however is probably a different matter entirely. If I remember correctly (don't have time to check now), after 90 minutes it was only one save for Patricio and zero for Casillas... and that's where it gets really impressive: during the knock-out phases of the tournaments, Spain haven't conceded a single goal in 2008, 2010 and 2012.

[pokkeherrie]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

today (it's noon here!) i hope it's going to be awesome. i really love italy, they are a good team, buffon is a fucking titan, and pirlo a genius, and crazy balotelli with all his faults is a huge talent, so anything can happen of course. i would like germany to win and have put all my chips on them for the fantasy league, but am i sure they will win? hell no.

im wearing a white tshirt though! lololol

Have a good game! I hope Germany will win it too!

(it's become acceptable for Dutch people to support Germany nowadays, mostly because they've started playing a lot more attractive ever since 2006, while our own team has become way more conservative/boring).
(edit: in 2006 and 2010 Germany were great, but somehow they were mostly awful at 2008 though, I blame Ballack)

[pokkeherrie]

Ah, fuck it, I'm gonna stay home and watch this one too! (had agreed to go to a gig somewhere in town, but I can't be all that bothered at the moment.

[h8kurdt]

Anyones who says they predicted that Germany would be 2 down before half time is a bullshitter. Just brilliant. Italy ahve sure brought their A game and then some.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Anyones who says they predicted that Germany would be 2 down before half time is a bullshitter. Just brilliant. Italy ahve sure brought their A game and then some.

fuck! germany started controlling the midfield but italy quickly figured out how to get over that with long balls. i am suffering here, but hats off to italy, amazing performance.

meanwhile podolski is fucking up and gomez is out of it. it's not just that italy is doing great but also germany is not performing.

bring in schurrle and klose for fucks sakes

oh fucking fuck

[demonrail666]

 

[!@#$%!]

not schurrle, but reus. gomez isn't getting any balls from the right. gomez alone in front is a dead end.

[!@#$%!]

oh fuck yes reus is getting instructions he's going in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and klose!!!!!!

[!@#$%!]

fuck me, what a fucking disaster

hats off to italy, they played a great game

though it was hard for me to watch i could still see

well i hope italy wins the final

[h8kurdt]

Well that along with Nadal losing in the second (or was it third?) bloody round of the tennis has led to a shock day for sport.

Was surprised there didn't seem to be more of Ozil during the game. As for Pirlo a)he crosses like a mother bitch and b)I need to know what conditioner he uses. His hair is like silk.

[demonrail666]

Auf wiedersehen Joachim and Hans

 

[jon boy]

suprised a little by italy today but they played well and should have had more goals. i still think spain will win though but it will be close.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Auf wiedersehen Joachim and Hans

 

the stupid fucker! zonal marking had a better assessment of the situation than him:

1) However, it might be wise for Germany to sit slightly deeper than usual. If they press relentlessly in midfield, they risk becoming overrun in the centre of the pitch, because Italy have extra players in there, and have the passing skills to work the ball past Germany’s players. For all Low’s talk of not letting Italy dictate the tempo of the match, the simple midfield numbers game might make this unavoidable at points.


exactly what happened

2) Germany may be good in possession – but they’re also the competition’s best side at transitions, and that ability might be more useful against an Italian side that hasn’t been sufficiently been tested in that respect, aside from brief moments against Ireland, when they looked vulnerable to quick wingers.

and yet, during the whole first half, germany attacked through the middle

 

also, gomez totally cracking under pressure = FAIL

and why podolski why o why

[the ikara cult]

The stage is all set for Spain to make football history by winning 3 tournaments in a row, only for the world media to say "Yeah, but they aint as good as they used to be are they"

They will find a way to beat Italy (but given how every prediction i ever make is wrong, youre best off taking that as a queue to put your house on the Italians)

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

The stage is all set for Spain to make football history by winning 3 tournaments in a row, only for the world media to say "Yeah, but they aint as good as they used to be are they"

They will find a way to beat Italy (but given how every prediction i ever make is wrong, youre best off taking that as a queue to put your house on the Italians)

Well probably fairer to say that they aren't as good as many of us want them to be. But I don't think anyone would deny that key players like Xavi haven't played particularly well so far. Although some of the rubbish i've heard on the radio and tv about how awful they suddenly are is obviously absurd.

I really can't say who i think will win the final. I think Spain'll be far more effective defensively but I'd still worry about them scoring, especially if they go down a goal and Italy decides just to close them out - which as we know they're very comfortable with as a tactic - whereas if Italy go down I always think they're capable of getting one back. Save all that and i wouldn't be at all surprised if it goes to penalties, especially if Italy aren't able to score.

[Glice]

I've got Spain in the sweepstake at work. Which is ironic, for a few reasons. So, uh, Viva Espanol.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Auf wiedersehen Joachim and Hans

 

What the fuck is radiohead doing there?

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

the stupid fucker! zonal marking had a better assessment of the situation than him:

1) However, it might be wise for Germany to sit slightly deeper than usual. If they press relentlessly in midfield, they risk becoming overrun in the centre of the pitch, because Italy have extra players in there, and have the passing skills to work the ball past Germany’s players. For all Low’s talk of not letting Italy dictate the tempo of the match, the simple midfield numbers game might make this unavoidable at points.


exactly what happened

2) Germany may be good in possession – but they’re also the competition’s best side at transitions, and that ability might be more useful against an Italian side that hasn’t been sufficiently been tested in that respect, aside from brief moments against Ireland, when they looked vulnerable to quick wingers.

and yet, during the whole first half, germany attacked through the middle

 

also, gomez totally cracking under pressure = FAIL

and why podolski why o why

Zonalmarking have done an excellent indepth analysis of the game, now. Do those guys even sleep?

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/06/...otelli-double/

They seem to come to the conclusion that Loew fiddled with Germany's formation but only in a way that compromised their own strengths, while leaving Italy's largely unhindered. I'm pleased that they didn't just talk about Germany's shortcomings, though, heaping praise on Italy's excellent organisation. Ultimately though, I think we can say last night was a tactical fuck up by Loew, whether out of arrogance (rumours that he pretty much saw Italy as no more than an inconvenient fly that needed swatting on the way to the final) or a case of him simply getting it wrong. We certainly can't say Italy had the better players. They were just set up much better than the Germans - for reasons I suspect only Loew really knows.

I'm split about Sunday. It'll be a great game, I think, but while I have a soft spot for a number of Spanish players, there's still a big romance for me with the Italian national team, even when they haven't done well or were playing in their traditional catanaccio style. I put it down to the simple fact they're from the land of Fellini, Sabrina Salerno and pecorino. So as much as I have to admire Germany and even at times enjoy them, I've never really been able to like them. There's just no romantic associations their for me. which means I can now watch the final assured that I won't be disappointed whoever wins. So for me it's a boring but honest case of, may the best team win (with a very quiet "come on Italy".

As an aside, I heard this on a podcast last night: say the word chicken before the surname of every Italian player and it sounds like something you'd order in a restaurant. (with the possible exception of Buffon)

Originally Posted by halfeatencake

This is my EM highlight:

the monster from the black lagoon x godzilla

or so

 

I really want someone to produce a Balotelli action figure that looks like that.

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

What the fuck is radiohead doing there?

I love the way they always synchronise their outfits.

 

One of the all-time great football love affairs.

[!@#$%!]

this morning in the news:

Spain and Italy win major concessions from Germany at debt summit

i can't help but wonder!