The Observer's 50 albums that changed music - Page 9

Daddylikes · 07.17.2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

That Gavin guy from Bush has said his favourite artist of all time is Kurt Cobain. HAHA, he tries to look like him, not to mention sound like him.

Cite where he said this.

Cantankerous · 07.17.2006, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by krastian

Yeah but PJ didn't "copycat" Nirvana....honest. Two completely different beasts.

Whatever. They were on the same bandwagon.

finding nobody · 07.17.2006, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87

Fuck I seriously thought it was a joke. Why?!

hahahahaah
i found that shit on wikipedia man!

acousticrock87 · 07.17.2006, 01:55 AM

Ya I didn't think they allowed that stuff on there. That's why I thought it was a joke.

"On July 18, 1993, Rage Against the Machine protested against the PMRC at Lollapalooza III by standing naked onstage with duct tape covering their mouths and the letters PMRC on their chests."

Kinda interesting, though. I like Zack.

Daddylikes · 07.17.2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

Whatever. They were on the same bandwagon.

Actually Pearl Jam was on a much different bandwagon...

Pearl Jam was much more on the Black Sabbath/Zeppelin tip...and Nirvana was much more on the Iggy and the Stooges/Pixies tip.

Norma J · 07.17.2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

That you misquoted me?
I never said Nevermind didn't change music. It did. It paved the way for a lot of copycat bands like Pearl Jam and Silverchair and Bush. THAT DOES NOT MEAN I THINK IT IS A GOOD ALBUM, BUT IT DOES BELONG ON THE LIST FOR ONE REASON ONLY: IT CHANGED MUSIC.

Well then, good girl. I was more reffering to the way you were acting in your post(s). Then arguing with Math that they did change music, you were more the stepping stone - you paved the way for that debate. I agree, I did misinterpreted you, but you misinterpreted me by calling me a 'dumb son of a bitch', 'cause clearly we all know that's not true.

Oh, and Silverchair were more Pearl Jam rip-offs with their debut Frogstomp, they've maintained throughtout the course of their career that they have never even liked Nirvana.

Daddylikes · 07.17.2006, 01:57 AM

And as I've said before Pearl Jam's Ten was released BEFORE Nevermind.

How did Pearl Jam copy an album released AFTER theirs?

Cantankerous · 07.17.2006, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J

Oh, and Silverchair were more Pearl Jam rip-offs with their debut Frogstomp, they've maintained throughtout the course of their career that they have never even liked Nirvana.

Oh.
MY BAD.

finding nobody · 07.17.2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87

Ya I didn't think they allowed that stuff on there. That's why I thought it was a joke.

"On July 18, 1993, Rage Against the Machine protested against the PMRC at Lollapalooza III by standing naked onstage with duct tape covering their mouths and the letters PMRC on their chests."

Kinda interesting, though. I like Zack.

yeah, i've been waiting to hear his solo stuff. he's been collaberating with DJ Shadow (whom i am also yet to hear)

krastian · 07.17.2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous

Whatever. They were on the same bandwagon.

Well not for me.....I loved both. Ha ha...yeah they created the bandwagon!

krastian · 07.17.2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Daddylikes

And as I've said before Pearl Jam's Ten was released BEFORE Nevermind.

How did Pearl Jam copy an album released AFTER theirs?

Ya heard? Two different bands that unfortunately get massed together in one media induced mess.

acousticrock87 · 07.17.2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by finding nobody

yeah, i've been waiting to hear his solo stuff. he's been collaberating with DJ Shadow (whom i am also yet to hear)

Ya I heard March of Death, and it's basically RAtM without a guitar. I didn't know it was going to be a whole project, though. That was a long time ago.

Toilet & Bowels · 07.17.2006, 07:25 AM

i want to slap the lot of you.

sonicl · 07.17.2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Daddylikes

Pearl Jam was much more on the Black Sabbath/Zeppelin tip...and Nirvana was much more on the Iggy and the Stooges/Pixies tip.

Wha? There's far more Sabbath in "Bleach" than there is Stooges or Pixies.

porkmarras · 07.17.2006, 07:30 AM

Indeed.First band that came up to my mind when i listened to 'Bleach' was indeed Black Sabbath.

Daddylikes · 07.17.2006, 07:31 AM

But we aren't talking about the album "Bleach", are we?

We're referring to "Nevermind", because it is the album mentioned in this article.

God, I hate discussing things with idiots.

sonicl · 07.17.2006, 07:32 AM

And the Sabbath influence on Nirvana comes through The Melvins, who in turn got it through Black Flag.

sonicl · 07.17.2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Daddylikes

God, I hate discussing things with idiots.

Well stop talking to yourself then.

porkmarras · 07.17.2006, 07:33 AM

Hey hey hey.What's with the insults now?I missed yer post but i thought sonicl was on the 'Bleach' case there.

Toilet & Bowels · 07.17.2006, 07:35 AM

well all you american idiots should fuck off, pearl jam, silverchair, bush, fugazi, even rage against the macine, mean very little in the context of music that is influential in the british mainstream.

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acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Ya I didn't think they allowed that stuff on there. That's why I thought it was a joke. "On July 18, 1993, Rage Against the Machine protested against the PMRC at Lollapalooza III by standing naked onstage with duct tape covering their mouths and the letters PMRC on their chests." Kinda interesting, though. I like Zack.
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Daddylikes the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gnome, Alaska Posts: 929	And as I've said before Pearl Jam's Ten was released BEFORE Nevermind. How did Pearl Jam copy an album released AFTER theirs?
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Daddylikes the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gnome, Alaska Posts: 929	But we aren't talking about the album "Bleach", are we? We're referring to "Nevermind", because it is the album mentioned in this article. God, I hate discussing things with idiots.
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sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	And the Sabbath influence on Nirvana comes through The Melvins, who in turn got it through Black Flag.
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	well all you american idiots should fuck off, pearl jam, silverchair, bush, fugazi, even rage against the macine, mean very little in the context of music that is influential in the british mainstream.
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