[Rob Instigator]

 

[Severian]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Can't go wrong with Cabin in the Woods and Evil Dead.

Piranha 3DD probably qualifies as comedy horror but other than that, how about Return of the Living Dead?

Masque of the Red Death would cover your Poe requirements, and it's a great film in its own right.

If you can get hold of Nekromantik then it's worth seeing

Also. how about something that's genuinely scary, like the 1st Paranormal Activity?

I'd also recommend It Follows and House of the Devil if youre interested in recent (and very good) homages to 80s horror movies.

Another good recent horror is The Babadook.

Also reasonably new and with a real good story, and surprisingly scary, is The Woman in Black

If it was me, on Halloween night itself, I'd go for something like

Bride of Frankenstein
Night of the Living Dead
Carnival of Souls
The Funhouse

I liked It Follows a lot.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

The babadook had way too much screaming toddler in it. For me, screaming toddler is the real horror

It was at least different enough to stand out. But yeah within 1/2 an hour I hated that kid.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

It was at least different enough to stand out. But yeah within 1/2 an hour I hated that kid.

You know, I actually think the kid was in some way a part of the film's "horror" presence. I mean, that little fucker was AWFUL. My girlfriend and I actually high fived each other at one point for having successfully managed to not have kids despite the weird pressures that are are heaped on us by our friends who are married and parents.

If I recall correctly, that film turned out to be kind of a "sympathetic" horror film. I use the term loosely, but what I mean by that is that the antagonist either is or is somehow related to something the protagonists have to sort of grow to accept (kind of like those Japanese ghost flicks that involve a spirit that needs the help of the main character to "move on"... y'know?)

Anyway, I think the mother in Babadook is just as terrified of and frustrated by her child as we are. And I think the kid is part of the terror. The subliminal knowledge that the mom would love to be rid of that little shit.

But then the kid (somewhat inexplicably if I recall) kind of does a 180, and becomes more parental just as the mother starts to go really bonkers.

I don't know. I was trying to figure out why William Friedkin put so much energy into suppprting and talking up the movie. I think it must be partly due to the fact that much like in the exorcist, the horrors bit very close to home and are compounded by the characters' relationships.

It was a good horror flick. Scary imagery, for sure. Very well conceived. But it also may have been a great horror flick because the mere act of watching it elicits such a negative and honestly kind of upsetting response from viewers, who all hate the child and are uncomfortable as hell with that. I think the best horror breaks down borders of what "horror" is supposed to be, and gives us a deeply disquieting feeling even when the supernatural shit isn't happening. Babadook does that. But I'd have to watch it again before I make any decisive statements about its greatness. After one viewing, about a year ago, I think of it as a high-average horror movie. Like maybe a 6-7/10. With 10 being Suspiria and Let the Right One In and the like, and 0 being, like, I know what you did last summer or whatever.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

thanks guys-- yes, i'm a whedon fan since his buffy days

it should be here soon!

also lining up the evil dead which i've never seen

i should try to get the roger corman gothic horrors too if i can-- i used to be an edgar allan poe fan when i was a kid and it would be interesting to see

Have you ever seen Serenity? Or the ill-fated, barely 1 season long television show that it concluded (Firefly)? It takes a little getting used to early on, but it gets pretty motherfucking great. The last episode is pure genius. And with the movie they kicked it into high gear. Just a really excellent TV to cinema transition. Forget Buffy or whatever... Firefly/Serenity is peak Whedon.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

Have you ever seen Serenity? Or the ill-fated, barely 1 season long television show that it concluded (Firefly)? It takes a little getting used to early on, but it gets pretty motherfucking great. The last episode is pure genius. And with the movie they kicked it into high gear. Just a really excellent TV to cinema transition. Forget Buffy or whatever... Firefly/Serenity is peak Whedon.

OF COURSE. seen the series a bunch of times and a few episodes with the commentary on. also the movie was the last time i went to a movie house in the nearby town-- fuckers left the lights on. so now i have to drive hours to a "city" if i must have the megaplex experience. but yeah, serenity was desperately needed to close that loop.

oh, much ado about nothing was a nice little whedon reunion. i enjoyed it.

btw taking the other day about dc cab you realize the main actor in dc cab is jayne, yes? wait, it wasn't with you. but yeah that's a young jayne as the great white savior.

the one whedon project i ceased to like was agents of S.H.I.T. which had a promising 1st season (another chosen one). but i think he put his little brother + the brother's girlfriend in charge or something. anyway not my problem.

i also liked dollhouse! i thought it was great fun tv though it was also rushed to end.

oh, and dr. horrible, of course.

cabin in the woods somehow flew past my radar. i must have been in some sort of life crisis when it happened.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Severian

You know, I actually think the kid was in some way a part of the film's "horror" presence. I mean, that little fucker was AWFUL. My girlfriend and I actually high fived each other at one point for having successfully managed to not have kids despite the weird pressures that are are heaped on us by our friends who are married and parents.

If I recall correctly, that film turned out to be kind of a "sympathetic" horror film. I use the term loosely, but what I mean by that is that the antagonist either is or is somehow related to something the protagonists have to sort of grow to accept (kind of like those Japanese ghost flicks that involve a spirit that needs the help of the main character to "move on"... y'know?)

Anyway, I think the mother in Babadook is just as terrified of and frustrated by her child as we are. And I think the kid is part of the terror. The subliminal knowledge that the mom would love to be rid of that little shit.

But then the kid (somewhat inexplicably if I recall) kind of does a 180, and becomes more parental just as the mother starts to go really bonkers.

I don't know. I was trying to figure out why William Friedkin put so much energy into suppprting and talking up the movie. I think it must be partly due to the fact that much like in the exorcist, the horrors bit very close to home and are compounded by the characters' relationships.

It was a good horror flick. Scary imagery, for sure. Very well conceived. But it also may have been a great horror flick because the mere act of watching it elicits such a negative and honestly kind of upsetting response from viewers, who all hate the child and are uncomfortable as hell with that. I think the best horror breaks down borders of what "horror" is supposed to be, and gives us a deeply disquieting feeling even when the supernatural shit isn't happening. Babadook does that. But I'd have to watch it again before I make any decisive statements about its greatness. After one viewing, about a year ago, I think of it as a high-average horror movie. Like maybe a 6-7/10. With 10 being Suspiria and Let the Right One In and the like, and 0 being, like, I know what you did last summer or whatever.

I've only seen it once and still don't really know what I think of it. I probably respect it more than like it but it does stand out as something different. Although I get the feeling it's a horror film more popular with people who aren't necessarily big horror film fans.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

 

i love this flick

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

OF COURSE. seen the series a bunch of times and a few episodes with the commentary on. also the movie was the last time i went to a movie house in the nearby town-- fuckers left the lights on. so now i have to drive hours to a "city" if i must have the megaplex experience. but yeah, serenity was desperately needed to close that loop.

oh, much ado about nothing was a nice little whedon reunion. i enjoyed it.

btw taking the other day about dc cab you realize the main actor in dc cab is jayne, yes? wait, it wasn't with you. but yeah that's a young jayne as the great white savior.

the one whedon project i ceased to like was agents of S.H.I.T. which had a promising 1st season (another chosen one). but i think he put his little brother + the brother's girlfriend in charge or something. anyway not my problem.

i also liked dollhouse! i thought it was great fun tv though it was also rushed to end.

oh, and dr. horrible, of course.

cabin in the woods somehow flew past my radar. i must have been in some sort of life crisis when it happened.

I quite like Agents of SHIELD, especially seasons 1 (the second half, mostly)
and season 3.

It's better than I expected it to be by leaps and bounds. But Season 2 suffered wth the stupid force-fed Inhumans backstory plot. Season 3 was much of the same, but pulled it off in a much better way. It brought the occult-Nazi side of Hydra to the forefront, and I have a thing for occult WWII related alternate histories.

Speaking of occult WWII alt. histories, I miss Hellboy! I liked the first film, but I think it could have been more stylized and reminiscent of the comics. That's one comic hero that could use a real full-throttle reboot. The films never did the gothic Lovecraftian horror of the comics justice.

Hellboy is great.

[!@#$%!]

im watching the debate and my mouth is dry with adrenaline and it's a real horror movie

[!@#$%!]

this is like some goddamn torture porn... and the audience is the one being tortured

holy fuck that fucking dipshit with the fucking fake hair

[demonrail666]

 

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me

I can do without the first bit - which feels a bit like a parody of a Lynch movie - but once it gets into the main story I think it's one of his best. The girl who plays Laura Palmer gives an incredible performance, one of the best I've seen in any Lynch film.

[!@#$%!]

^^^ i have good memories of that movie. thats the one with the great creepy ending no?

oh, so netflix decided to throttle me. FUCKERS.

so i only have lined up for this weekend the following netflix discs:
-chan wook park's THIRST (promises to be great)
-THE EVIL DEAD in glorious blu-ray. i wont watch any bullshit "enhanced" version though, but the original 4x3
also got from libraries:
-MULHOLLAND DRIVE (speaking of lynch)
-POULTRYGEIST. a funny troma movie, i saw it released ages ago and met looyd kaufman briefly

additionally i have access to AMAZON SCREAM (is that the name? prime+horror) for the month, but i have to watch my bandwidth (yes i have limited internet like in 1945). they have NEKROMANTIK so that might fit the midnight program. also a bunch of other stuff to fit the weekend mood.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

NEKROMANTIK.

I'm a big fan of Buttgereit. If you can, try and see Der Todesking. It doesn't have the same taboo appeal as the Nekromantik films so tends to get less coverage, but it's probably my favourite film by him. Nekromantik 1 & 2 are excellent though. (Schramm is also very good).

[!@#$%!]

i couldn't find the TV thread but holy fuck did woody allen's amazon tv show just come out??? it's right fucking there!!!

i gotta play an episode RIGHT. NOW.

[demonrail666]

 

Spent last night with Lucio Fulci's 'Gates of Hell' trilogy: City of the Living Dead; The Beyond; House by the Cemetery.

Fans of Lovecraftian horror who can handle outrageous amounts of gore and bad dubbing will be in their element with these. As stand-alone films they're all great but The Beyond is an absolute classic.

 

 

 

[!@#$%!]

HEY! I FOUND DER TODESKING ON AMAZON!!! THANKS!!

it's part of their "shudder" subscription and i added it to my watchlist for an imminent screening but *right now* i'm gearing up for INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS. which freaked me out when i was a little kid (it was on tv and i saw a few minutes of it) and have never actually seen complete.

also watched last night THE EVIL DEAD. it was great!! i made a ton of notes of it ha ha ha but that's for another day.

started watching THIRST and it looks amazing but it was late and we were too exhausted by then and fell asleep during a quiet moment. will resume this evening (daytime i get more internet, so it's amazon).

oh watched the first episode of the woody allen series, it's called CRISIS, and it was hilarious and great! he's in it, some of his old regulars are there plus some new faces, his eternal themes are there of course, lots of funny lines, great fun so far i'll be pacing it so i can better savor. plus it's not "horror"-- but i can't wait till my horror season is over ha ha ha.

[tw2113]

I spent a bunch of time this weekend once again watching The Hunger Games Trilogy. I call the last 2 movies one movie. Deal with it.

[!@#$%!]

finally saw invasion of the body snatchers, and it was good (if you remove the obvious "red scare" pitch which is like aghhhh), but that's not the movie that freaked me out as a kid--i'm still looking for that.

also finally saw THE HILLS HAVE EYES. which started kinda meh but ended up really good and a lot of fun. wasn't "scary", ended up being more a kind of action film for me. funny thing that you see a torn poster of jaws inside the trailer of the hills have eyes, and then in the basement of the evil dead there's a torn poster of the hills have eyes, ha ha ha. i'm starting to think that the movie horror business is a kind of mutual appreciation society.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

I FOUND DER TODESKING

Excellent! Really interested to know what you think. Hope you like it.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

also finally saw THE HILLS HAVE EYES. which started kinda meh but ended up really good and a lot of fun. wasn't "scary", ended up being more a kind of action film for me. funny thing that you see a torn poster of jaws inside the trailer of the hills have eyes, and then in the basement of the evil dead there's a torn poster of the hills have eyes, ha ha ha. i'm starting to think that the movie horror business is a kind of mutual appreciation society.

Was it the remake or the original? I don't mind the remake but i didn't like how it seemed to try and make the cannibal family seem almost like victims. Wes Craven's original is fantastic. Less violent but far more brutal because it doesn't make too much effort to contextualise anything. I really don't like the current trend of emphasising the social forces behind the creation of iconic monsters. It feels too safe to me. Rob Zombie's Halloween films being among the worst offenders. I'm adult enough to know that 'evil' doesn't exist in a vacuum without having to be constantly reminded of it.

And yeah, there is that mutual appreciation thing in a lot of horror. I like it. It's a bit like bands wearing t shirts of other bands on stage. There'a sense of community in horror that, for whatever reason, I don't see as much in other genres.