Love them or Hate them? The Smashing Pumpkins

GrungeMonkey · 03.22.2007, 05:22 PM

There seems to be quite a split opinion on the Pumpkins on these boards... I thought I'd see where the majority lies, out of interest and also because I like making polls.

screamingskull · 03.22.2007, 06:07 PM

Love them.

jakeonguitar · 03.22.2007, 06:18 PM

Indifferent. Some stuff is good, some stuff is bad.

fishmonkey · 03.22.2007, 06:18 PM

luxinterior · 03.22.2007, 06:20 PM

They are one of those very popular groups that I've just never tried listening to. So who knows.

Toilet & Bowels · 03.22.2007, 07:17 PM

i don't care about them, i haven't heard their music in about 8 or 9 years, i can only vaguely remember what they were like.

Everyneurotic · 03.22.2007, 07:43 PM

i don't love them or hate them, i like them alright but they are not my favorite band or they have ever been.

!@#$%! · 03.22.2007, 08:27 PM

annoying, perhaps even laughable. hate? who has the time??

afterthefact · 03.22.2007, 09:52 PM

Yeah, we need more options. I don't LOVE them, and I know this because I know people who love them, and I'm not like them. But I don't hate them either. I thought they were good in their heyday, then they went way down hill, then Billy Corgan did even more disappointing stuff with Zwan and eventually far more disappointing stuff on his own, and now they are planning a comeback where I'm sure they will reach a new level of disappointment. But I still like listening to Siamese Dream.

Alex's Trip · 03.22.2007, 10:28 PM

I love them. They are one of the first bands that I listened too. I originally thought that they would be some heavy metal band or something (I guess their name was misleading to a 12 year old). So I wanted to listen to that to get away from the crap that my mom and sister listened to. I really owe them a lot, because if I hadn't originally began listening to them, I might not be here on the Sonic Youth board.

Sonic Youth 37 · 03.22.2007, 10:49 PM

Love them.
I have no love for Melissa Auf Der Maur though.

Reasons:
James was the greatest.
Their heavy tone was great.
They were (in my opinion) one of the last "classic" rock bands, from the golden age of drugs and ego-driven lifestyle.
Billy Corgan is one of my guitar idols.
"Bullet with Butterfly Wings" was one of the first songs I actively debated.

StevOK · 03.22.2007, 11:18 PM

They're my third favorite band.

NEW ALBUM 7-7-07!!

EMMAh · 03.22.2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jakeonguitar

Indifferent. Some stuff is good, some stuff is bad.

Agreed. I'm going to vote love though, cause I definitely don't hate them.

Pax Americana · 03.22.2007, 11:35 PM

Don't hate them. In fact, I like a lot of their stuff.

Billy Corgan is a douche bag though, and I'd be willing to bet this new 'reunion' album is gonna suck.

Cantankerous · 03.22.2007, 11:40 PM

i am not a fan. they did, however, have some super cool threads back in the day.

Cantankerous · 03.23.2007, 12:07 AM

do you mean stone temple pilots with that douchebag scott weiland or do you mean STP with julie cafritz?

SynthethicalY · 03.23.2007, 12:11 AM

What happened to the Eh? option.

fluxequalsrad · 03.23.2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Blatherskite

They had some good hits, but what do you do with the rest of the album tracks? Toss 'em. Sorry, Billy, I hate SP. I don't think they're worse than STP, though.

Siamese Dream - Is a quintessential album that if held away from billy's big-bald ego, (his antics now are even worse), is an amazing album with top notch production and is a completely original perfect blend of shoegazey-prog-pop.

Even though I know most people here have heard the pumpkins and the majority of those people have also probably heard alot of album tracks too, just give the pumpkins a chance with the songs "Hummer" + "Rocket", both of them have incredible guitar playing, top notch fuzz, Billy's lyrics at his best (at best being uplifting, we're not talking Idioteque or anything obtuse)

Hummer- this song showcases everything the pumpkins can do in an epic two-parter. The guitar solo (3:09-3:36) is the best guitar solo ever and rolls right off perfectly into the climax of the song. After that the song drifts into an unbelievable quiet-drifty coda with another amazing but subtle guitar solo. (I hold this song up to the same level as Karenology or any other Sonic Epic.)

Rocket- An unbelievable layering of an endless number of perfect guitar leads that all could have been the highlight of the song occurs at (3:22-3:35), on top of that this song is perfect pop and doesn't have any pretentious Billy Corgan crap but instead is as huge as he thinks his music is.

I really would like to hear any objective criticisms of these songs because they're just so fucking good.

Norma J · 03.23.2007, 01:39 AM

I don't have either of them emotions for the Smashing Pumpkins. But I do like them therefore I shall vote 'love'.

Green Magnesium · 03.23.2007, 01:41 AM

I wouldn't call them one of my favorite bands, but 'Rhinoceros' is probably one of my favorite songs.

If you take about half of the songs from each disc of the Mellon Collie album, you get one great full-length album.

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I love them.	43	53.09%
I hate them.	38	46.91%
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03.22.2007, 05:22 PM	#1
GrungeMonkey 100% Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Huddersfield, England Posts: 670	There seems to be quite a split opinion on the Pumpkins on these boards... I thought I'd see where the majority lies, out of interest and also because I like making polls.
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03.22.2007, 06:07 PM	#2
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	Love them.
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03.22.2007, 06:18 PM	#3
jakeonguitar bad moon rising Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California Posts: 181	Indifferent. Some stuff is good, some stuff is bad.
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03.22.2007, 06:18 PM	#4
fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	hate __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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03.22.2007, 06:20 PM	#5
luxinterior invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri, land of the free and home of the brave Posts: 2,351	They are one of those very popular groups that I've just never tried listening to. So who knows. __________________ "I sweat like a fucking nun on Sunday...I don't even know what that means." - Sebastian Bach
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03.22.2007, 07:17 PM	#6
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	i don't care about them, i haven't heard their music in about 8 or 9 years, i can only vaguely remember what they were like.
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03.22.2007, 07:43 PM	#7
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i don't love them or hate them, i like them alright but they are not my favorite band or they have ever been. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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03.22.2007, 08:27 PM	#8
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	annoying, perhaps even laughable. hate? who has the time??
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03.22.2007, 09:52 PM	#9
afterthefact invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,886	Yeah, we need more options. I don't LOVE them, and I know this because I know people who love them, and I'm not like them. But I don't hate them either. I thought they were good in their heyday, then they went way down hill, then Billy Corgan did even more disappointing stuff with Zwan and eventually far more disappointing stuff on his own, and now they are planning a comeback where I'm sure they will reach a new level of disappointment. But I still like listening to Siamese Dream. __________________ "She hated people who thought too much. At that moment, she struck me as an appropriate representative for almost all mankind." - Kurt Vonnegut Cat's Cradle
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03.22.2007, 10:28 PM	#10
Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	I love them. They are one of the first bands that I listened too. I originally thought that they would be some heavy metal band or something (I guess their name was misleading to a 12 year old). So I wanted to listen to that to get away from the crap that my mom and sister listened to. I really owe them a lot, because if I hadn't originally began listening to them, I might not be here on the Sonic Youth board.
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03.22.2007, 10:49 PM	#11
Sonic Youth 37 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: if there is a bright spot in the universe, the farthest point from it Posts: 9,443	Love them. I have no love for Melissa Auf Der Maur though. Reasons: James was the greatest. Their heavy tone was great. They were (in my opinion) one of the last "classic" rock bands, from the golden age of drugs and ego-driven lifestyle. Billy Corgan is one of my guitar idols. "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" was one of the first songs I actively debated. __________________ "One: Where's the fife? and Two: Gimme the fife."
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03.22.2007, 11:18 PM	#12
StevOK expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Henrietta, TX Posts: 2,412	They're my third favorite band. NEW ALBUM 7-7-07!! __________________ Follow me! Soundcloud Tumblr Facebook
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03.22.2007, 11:35 PM	#14
Pax Americana expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,187	Don't hate them. In fact, I like a lot of their stuff. Billy Corgan is a douche bag though, and I'd be willing to bet this new 'reunion' album is gonna suck.
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03.22.2007, 11:40 PM	#15
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	i am not a fan. they did, however, have some super cool threads back in the day. __________________ RETIRED
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03.23.2007, 12:07 AM	#16
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	do you mean stone temple pilots with that douchebag scott weiland or do you mean STP with julie cafritz? __________________ RETIRED
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03.23.2007, 12:11 AM	#17
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	What happened to the Eh? option.
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03.23.2007, 01:39 AM	#19
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	I don't have either of them emotions for the Smashing Pumpkins. But I do like them therefore I shall vote 'love'. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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03.23.2007, 01:41 AM	#20
Green Magnesium 100% Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A House Like a Lotus Posts: 809	I wouldn't call them one of my favorite bands, but 'Rhinoceros' is probably one of my favorite songs. If you take about half of the songs from each disc of the Mellon Collie album, you get one great full-length album.
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