Punk Intelligentsia

Pookie · 08.21.2006, 06:20 AM

From the ridiculous (Oi!) to the sublime.

But who deserves the title, "punk grand master".

Tokolosh · 08.21.2006, 06:23 AM

Philosophy?

Tokolosh · 08.21.2006, 06:26 AM

I was to fast for the poll.
Talking Heads was my choice.

Does anyone remember these guys.

Pookie · 08.21.2006, 06:28 AM

No, but I like the look of them

toxic johnny · 08.21.2006, 06:32 AM

Well this is all highly subjective stuff...
In my opinion they all deserve merit apart from Talking Heads.

But Richard Hell will always be my "Punk Grand Master"

Iain · 08.21.2006, 07:00 AM

Ubuubuubuubuubuubu...

RdTv · 08.21.2006, 07:08 AM

Richard Hell is the ''Grand Master''. The entire movement in England came from what Malcom Mclaren brought back with him from the USA, namely the complete look and attitude of one Richard Hell.

sonicl · 08.21.2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RdTv

Richard Hell is the ''Grand Master''. The entire movement in England came from what Malcom Mclaren brought back with him from the USA, namely the complete look and attitude of one Richard Hell.

Oh dear. This thread could be about to take a sharp change in direction and become a skirmish over the origins of punk. It's always very messy when that happens...

RdTv · 08.21.2006, 07:26 AM

I know isn't it? I'm not trying to start a battle but ''Punk'', the term, the music and lifestyle started in the US, the fashion started in the UK and some great music came out of the UK.

Fair enough?

Toilet & Bowels · 08.21.2006, 07:41 AM

no john lydon?

Toilet & Bowels · 08.21.2006, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RdTv

I know isn't it? I'm not trying to start a battle but ''Punk'', the term, the music and lifestyle started in the US

nobody said it didn't, mr defensive.

RdTv · 08.21.2006, 07:45 AM

I'm Not Being Defensive, Damnit!!!!

porkmarras · 08.21.2006, 07:46 AM

You two!!

RdTv · 08.21.2006, 07:53 AM

haha...I think its my nature to become defensive about punk rock origins, simply because the majority of people are ignorant and un-educated on this matter. So, forgive because I, for a brief moment, forgot I was speaking to some of the most knowledgeable and enlightened music enthusiasts available. And as a token of my sincerest apologies here's a little bit of something

Androol · 08.21.2006, 08:00 AM

the first punk song was I Got A Right by The Stooges from 1972 although the band themselves were more proto-punk like MC5

The Ramones were the grandmasters of course

Neon Boys are coming in second regardless of dates

Toilet & Bowels · 08.21.2006, 08:03 AM

thanks, that's a nice tripod logo.

porkmarras · 08.21.2006, 08:06 AM

If i hear one more person deciding wich one was the first punk song or where it originates from,i'll go out and bite the head of a random pigeon.Fuck's sake!!

sonicl · 08.21.2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

If i hear one more person deciding wich one was the first punk song or where it originates from,i'll go out and bite the head of a random pigeon.Fuck's sake!!

"Two Little Boys" by Rolf Harris was the first punk song.

Pookie · 08.21.2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Androol

the first punk song was I Got A Right by The Stooges from 1972 although the band themselves were more proto-punk like MC5

The Ramones were the grandmasters of course

Voidoids are coming in second regardless of dates

The Stooges were just a heavy rock band, don't believe the hype.

Television (with Richard Hell) pre-dated Voidoids, but Hell certainly had the punk image nailed.

I'm not saying who had the first punk song for fear of an innocent pigeon buying the farm.

RdTv · 08.21.2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras

If i hear one more person deciding wich one was the first punk song or where it originates from,i'll go out and bite the head of a random pigeon.Fuck's sake!!

Promise? The Sonics - Psycho....bite you bastard, go and bite! I want blood this morning!!!

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Pere Ubu	4	8.33%
Gang Of Four	3	6.25%
Patti Smith	5	10.42%
Wire	8	16.67%
Television	9	18.75%
The Pop Group	2	4.17%
Richard Hell & The Voidoids	5	10.42%
Subway Sect	0	0%
Talking Heads	7	14.58%
Other	5	10.42%
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08.21.2006, 06:20 AM	#1
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08.21.2006, 06:26 AM	#3
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	I was to fast for the poll. Talking Heads was my choice. Does anyone remember these guys. __________________ Anything you can /imagine is real
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Pookie invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9,877	No, but I like the look of them
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toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	Well this is all highly subjective stuff... In my opinion they all deserve merit apart from Talking Heads. But Richard Hell will always be my "Punk Grand Master" __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	Ubuubuubuubuubuubu...
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RdTv invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington,KY USA Posts: 2,512	Richard Hell is the ''Grand Master''. The entire movement in England came from what Malcom Mclaren brought back with him from the USA, namely the complete look and attitude of one Richard Hell.
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RdTv invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington,KY USA Posts: 2,512	I know isn't it? I'm not trying to start a battle but ''Punk'', the term, the music and lifestyle started in the US, the fashion started in the UK and some great music came out of the UK. Fair enough?
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08.21.2006, 07:41 AM	#10
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	no john lydon?
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08.21.2006, 07:45 AM	#12
RdTv invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington,KY USA Posts: 2,512	I'm Not Being Defensive, Damnit!!!!
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porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	You two!! __________________
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08.21.2006, 07:53 AM	#14
RdTv invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington,KY USA Posts: 2,512	haha...I think its my nature to become defensive about punk rock origins, simply because the majority of people are ignorant and un-educated on this matter. So, forgive because I, for a brief moment, forgot I was speaking to some of the most knowledgeable and enlightened music enthusiasts available. And as a token of my sincerest apologies here's a little bit of something
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08.21.2006, 08:00 AM	#15
Androol the destroyed room Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 578	the first punk song was I Got A Right by The Stooges from 1972 although the band themselves were more proto-punk like MC5 The Ramones were the grandmasters of course Neon Boys are coming in second regardless of dates
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	thanks, that's a nice tripod logo.
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08.21.2006, 08:06 AM	#17
porkmarras invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London - UK Posts: 14,313	If i hear one more person deciding wich one was the first punk song or where it originates from,i'll go out and bite the head of a random pigeon.Fuck's sake!! __________________
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