Why is Stoner Rock so called?

sonicl · 11.21.2007, 03:33 PM

Is it referring to the musicians, or the fans?

And what qualities must the music have to qualify?

Rob Instigator · 11.21.2007, 03:35 PM

slugy, heavy deep riffing. stoner rock is the rock equivalent of chopped and screwed Rap.

all it means is it sounds good to stoned ears.

HECKLER SPRAY · 11.21.2007, 03:37 PM

And most of the time the musicians are stoned too...

sonicl · 11.21.2007, 03:37 PM

I was listening to QOTSA - Lullabies To Paralyse yesterday, which was got me thinking that. It has no stoned-ness to it whatsoever.

Whereas Bardo Pond is definitely very very stoned soundng, but isn't stoner rock.

atsonicpark · 11.21.2007, 03:37 PM

Any question like this can be answered by going to wikipedia and looking up stoner rock...

But since you asked, stoner rock is rock to get stoned to... Obviously, but... it's usually slow-paced, heavy, somewhat psychadelic, etc. And I'm not a big weed guy, but I've smoked weed and listened to Kyuss, Sabbath, shit like that, and it actually does sound a lot better when high -- though a lot of music does, so...

Anywho:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

Savage Clone · 11.21.2007, 03:37 PM

Sabbath fixation
Desert imagery helpful, but not required (especially if you're American)
"Manly" vocals and sludgy distortion of the midrangey/lowendy style on the guitars, usually no reverb
Slow parts
Jean vests
PBR
Beards on at least half of your band
Marijuana imagery intertwined with Baphomets and such

I think this stuff is great of you can do it and stand out, but a lot of these bands sound exactly the same. I love seeing it live, but only a small portion of it is home-listening material for me.

I think the bands and the fans both enjoy the leaf.

atsonicpark · 11.21.2007, 03:38 PM

Also, 4 replies at exactly 3:37 PM. We're on a ROLL in this JOINT.

Savage Clone · 11.21.2007, 03:39 PM

The bands I like best in this area are Electric Wizard, Sleep, and Nebula. Orange Goblin are great live, but on record I found them underwhelming.

atsonicpark · 11.21.2007, 03:43 PM

sleep - dopesmoker.

best.

sonicl · 11.21.2007, 03:46 PM

Thanks.

PS - I know I could've looked on Wikipedia, but sometimes the thoughts of fellow boardies are more interesting to hear/read.

Savage Clone · 11.21.2007, 03:48 PM

I like some of the bands that influenced this style quite a lot as well.
Beyond the obvious (Black Sabbath), Pentagram made some great stuff as did Saint Vitus.

atsonicpark · 11.21.2007, 03:49 PM

Understandable. I didn't mean to come off as a dick in my post, I dunno if I did, I was merely saying.. some people, believe it or not, still don't know about wikipedia somehow (?).

SYRFox · 11.21.2007, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl

I was listening to QOTSA - Lullabies To Paralyse yesterday, which was got me thinking that. It has no stoned-ness to it whatsoever.

Whereas Bardo Pond is definitely very very stoned soundng, but isn't stoner rock.

Actually - I'm not a stoner specialist, I don't like what I've heard of that genre, but I like that album - I don't think Lullabies to Paralyse is really a stoner album ...

flophousefloozie · 11.21.2007, 04:33 PM

It seems like a stereotype that can only be deemed as it is by those who don't listen to or enjoy it. Like most stereotypes, that is to say.

Lethrneck4 · 11.21.2007, 04:41 PM

id have to say my fav of them used to be NEbula..but now its definitely Dead Meadow, no band sounds as amazing stoned as those guys

Savage Clone · 11.21.2007, 04:42 PM

I don't see Dead Meadow as being a straight-up "stoner rock" band, though they would definitely appeal to some of that crowd.

demonrail666 · 11.21.2007, 05:10 PM

There have been some great bands associated with Stoner Rock (Kyuss especially) but any scene that seems solely to want to sound like Rock music from 1972 is bound to get stale really fucking quickly.

HECKLER SPRAY · 11.21.2007, 05:13 PM

Greatful Dead ?

demonrail666 · 11.21.2007, 05:17 PM

Grateful Dead were stale the minute the came out of the fridge.

MellySingsDoom · 11.21.2007, 05:37 PM

My all-time fave stoner rock tune has to be Monster Magnet's "Tab" - great minimal riffing and lyrics.

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sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Is it referring to the musicians, or the fans? And what qualities must the music have to qualify?
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	slugy, heavy deep riffing. stoner rock is the rock equivalent of chopped and screwed Rap. all it means is it sounds good to stoned ears. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	And most of the time the musicians are stoned too... __________________
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sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I was listening to QOTSA - Lullabies To Paralyse yesterday, which was got me thinking that. It has no stoned-ness to it whatsoever. Whereas Bardo Pond is definitely very very stoned soundng, but isn't stoner rock.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Any question like this can be answered by going to wikipedia and looking up stoner rock... But since you asked, stoner rock is rock to get stoned to... Obviously, but... it's usually slow-paced, heavy, somewhat psychadelic, etc. And I'm not a big weed guy, but I've smoked weed and listened to Kyuss, Sabbath, shit like that, and it actually does sound a lot better when high -- though a lot of music does, so... Anywho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock __________________
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Sabbath fixation Desert imagery helpful, but not required (especially if you're American) "Manly" vocals and sludgy distortion of the midrangey/lowendy style on the guitars, usually no reverb Slow parts Jean vests PBR Beards on at least half of your band Marijuana imagery intertwined with Baphomets and such I think this stuff is great of you can do it and stand out, but a lot of these bands sound exactly the same. I love seeing it live, but only a small portion of it is home-listening material for me. I think the bands and the fans both enjoy the leaf.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Also, 4 replies at exactly 3:37 PM. We're on a ROLL in this JOINT. __________________
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11.21.2007, 03:39 PM	#8
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	The bands I like best in this area are Electric Wizard, Sleep, and Nebula. Orange Goblin are great live, but on record I found them underwhelming.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	sleep - dopesmoker. best. __________________
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11.21.2007, 03:46 PM	#10
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Thanks. PS - I know I could've looked on Wikipedia, but sometimes the thoughts of fellow boardies are more interesting to hear/read.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I like some of the bands that influenced this style quite a lot as well. Beyond the obvious (Black Sabbath), Pentagram made some great stuff as did Saint Vitus.
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11.21.2007, 03:49 PM	#12
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Understandable. I didn't mean to come off as a dick in my post, I dunno if I did, I was merely saying.. some people, believe it or not, still don't know about wikipedia somehow (?). __________________
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flophousefloozie expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cowtown, Canada Posts: 1,694	It seems like a stereotype that can only be deemed as it is by those who don't listen to or enjoy it. Like most stereotypes, that is to say.
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Lethrneck4 children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 293	id have to say my fav of them used to be NEbula..but now its definitely Dead Meadow, no band sounds as amazing stoned as those guys __________________ the nerve, the unmitigated gall of this asshole - atari2600 i consider you dumb, ignorant, and irrelevant perhaps more than a fly, but less than a fart. a joke - !@#$%! Death by a firing squard of ten black gay men would be too good for this shithead. - atari2600 loser retard. pothead - !@#$%! you're a real prick for acting so daft & being so disagreeable on purpose - atari2600 On the contrary, tesla69 is idiota numero uno - atari2600
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I don't see Dead Meadow as being a straight-up "stoner rock" band, though they would definitely appeal to some of that crowd.
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	There have been some great bands associated with Stoner Rock (Kyuss especially) but any scene that seems solely to want to sound like Rock music from 1972 is bound to get stale really fucking quickly.
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HECKLER SPRAY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Near Paris, France Posts: 3,762	Greatful Dead ? __________________
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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Grateful Dead were stale the minute the came out of the fridge.
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	My all-time fave stoner rock tune has to be Monster Magnet's "Tab" - great minimal riffing and lyrics. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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