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val-holla-ing 06.25.2007 09:41 PM

iphone?/goth chicks?
 
anyone planning on getting one on friday or shortly after? what about you british cats...planning on getting one when it arrives over there?

i sold my wii and all the games for iphone/new york money and i don't feel the least bit ashamed. i've got a friend who's going to be camping out for me until i get out of work on friday.

also, one of my good friends won't stop dating strippers/fetish models/goth chicks, but he really should. how can i get him to stop it?

Danny Himself 06.25.2007 09:48 PM

The goth girl shit just must be the guy's thing, you know? It's hard to dissuade somebody from ladies. Even if they are particularly strange, weirdo and unnecessarily pale ladies.

And no, Danny no can has iPhone.

Savage Clone 06.25.2007 10:18 PM

Pale skin is hot.

Everyneurotic 06.25.2007 10:26 PM

let him find the error in his ways on his on.

although i wouldn't blame him if he was dating someone like this:

 

val-holla-ing 06.25.2007 10:28 PM

i only ask because all these goth chixxz are really causing my buddy more heartache than they're worth and i think if he got with people who weren't so obsessed with being un-normal (not different, but un-normal, if that makes sense) and victimized.

atsonicpark 06.25.2007 10:50 PM

there are still goth chicks?

i thought that scene completely dies for everyone after you leave 7th grade.

uh.. yeah.

my motto has always been: "Goth, a way for fat people to seem interesting." but anyway..

just let your buddy be an idiot. or do like me, and find a sweet young quiet girl (trust me when i say quiet girls are the freakiest in bed) and have her dress up as a goth and whatever for your own private sex time. but have her not act like a goth all the time. because who the fuck wants to hang out with a goth chick? "i'm a girl so i have a million more problems than guys do, but i'm also a GOTH girl, so i pretend like i have a million more problems than the average girl does."

fuck any girl who identifies with a scene.

Richard Pryor on Fire 06.25.2007 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
i only ask because all these goth chixxz are really causing my buddy more heartache than they're worth and i think if he got with people who weren't so obsessed with being un-normal (not different, but un-normal, if that makes sense) and victimized.


I like that un-normal not different thing. If you ever see it in a book by Bari A. Khan, know that you have an offical reason to stab Richard Pryor on Fire in the face.

atsonicpark 06.25.2007 10:59 PM

see, i like chicks who look different, but the alternative is now the mainstream. since every girl looks "different" compared to the chicks from like 5 years ago, the "normal" chicks are different now. catch my drift? i just don't want to date the same carbon copy .. yada yada fuck it. instead i'm dating her: http://www.myspace.com/pandaholic_x

she's pretty "normal" looking, except she likes to dress up and do weird stuff that i like. she's cool.

Everyneurotic 06.25.2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
i only ask because all these goth chixxz are really causing my buddy more heartache than they're worth and i think if he got with people who weren't so obsessed with being un-normal (not different, but un-normal, if that makes sense) and victimized.


i thought people went after goth chicks because they are easy.

your buddy is going to get blue balls and heartaches no matter what girls he's after, dude seems to be idealizing his women.

val-holla-ing 06.25.2007 11:10 PM

he definitely is idealizing them and he's stuck on this being "dark" thing that's really a waste of his time, because he isn't self absorbed enough to be like that. i could easily keep letting him deal with these girls, but i've seen him teeter on alcoholism as a result of the depression he faces from letting them drag him through the dirt.

Everyneurotic 06.25.2007 11:19 PM

he seems to need to things:

a) a female friend who can show him girls are not tits and asses covered in clothes (in this case, buttocks high boots and vinyl anything).

and

b) a hooker so he can get his freak and stop being all neurotic about getting some...hell, pay the whore rightly and she can dress like that fatty in herbalessences...i mean evanescence.


i can understand losing it for a special girl but for a whole subgenre of scene girls?

Norma J 06.25.2007 11:24 PM

Goth chicks don't do it for me - I see it all as an attention seeking fad (the whole "goth" thing). Your friend just obviously has bad taste in women. But then Atsonicparks girlfriend does nothing for me either. Girls have to have charisma to get at me, and they can be charismatic whether scene or not.

deathbyfeedback 06.26.2007 01:08 AM

i'm going to go listen to coctau twins on tape, if you get my meaning.

Alex's Trip 06.26.2007 01:26 AM

The iPhone doesn't seem like a good purchase to me, at least right now.

I have an ipod. I have a phone. I have a computer. Do I really need to spend $500-$600 to get crappier versions of all of them compacted into one?

val-holla-ing 06.26.2007 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
he seems to need to things:

a) a female friend who can show him girls are not tits and asses covered in clothes (in this case, buttocks high boots and vinyl anything).

and

b) a hooker so he can get his freak and stop being all neurotic about getting some...hell, pay the whore rightly and she can dress like that fatty in herbalessences...i mean evanescence.


i can understand losing it for a special girl but for a whole subgenre of scene girls?


you actually pretty much pegged his situation, but i don't know how i can get him to think differently of women. he still gives me shit for not eating meat.

val-holla-ing 06.26.2007 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
The iPhone doesn't seem like a good purchase to me, at least right now.

I have an ipod. I have a phone. I have a computer. Do I really need to spend $500-$600 to get crappier versions of all of them compacted into one?


same here, but i think it's really helpful to have a machine that can access the internet whenever, not just when i have time to sit down and pop out my powerbook (which, because of the casing, doesn't pick up signal as well as my ibook...which has a dead battery). i've been getting back aches as a result of carrying the thing around so much, not to mention how much of a liability it is to carry my instrument around the cities i go to. that's my reasoning for getting one.

nicfit 06.26.2007 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
also, one of my good friends won't stop dating strippers/fetish models/goth chicks, but he really should. how can i get him to stop it?

Buy him an iphone, he'll be distracted.
Or he'll end up selling it and spending money for strippers/ fetish models/ goth girls.
Savage Clone is right.
Personally, I don't care about getting the iphone, but I'm kinda intrigued in seeing how it will be reviewed by users.
Oh, Everyneurotic, the pic you posted (I suppose there should be a pic up there) is not showing, please re-link, I'm curious.

atsonicpark 06.26.2007 09:51 AM

real goths killed themselves looooooooooooong ago..

king_buzzo 06.26.2007 09:57 AM

hohoho

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 06.26.2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
there are still goth chicks?

my motto has always been: "Goth, a way for fat people to seem interesting." but anyway..



fucking nice!

Washing Machine 06.26.2007 10:01 AM

I must say some Goth Chicks are HOT!
I got a thing for them myself so I cant really talk, But I would hate to date one....the amount of times ive had this argument with 'goths' about how what they listen to, watch, wear is not in the slightest bit dark. Vampires, Zombies, Ghosts, Satan are not fucking dark. Heroin Addiction, Modernist Apartment blocks, Child Abuse, Ukraine....THATS fucking dark.

atsonicpark 06.26.2007 10:01 AM

sometimes i wonder if you're the real rhys chatham..

floatingslowly 06.26.2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Pale skin is hot.


quoted for truth and justice.

I love that sexy dead look!

Everyneurotic 06.26.2007 11:10 AM


nic:

 

nicfit 06.26.2007 11:11 AM

^^^
SPAM ;)

Glice 06.26.2007 11:44 AM

Goths are people to, ja?

Or rather, the whole thing about Goths being attention seeking is true of most people, it's just that (some) goths make it more obvious. I have friends who are goths. I have friends who are not goths. Most of them, in their own little way, are reprehensible human beings. Which makes me feel good about myself. Remember - people are not people, they are objects to make you feel better about yourself. This whole 'personality' schtick is, like, sooooo old.

tesla69 06.26.2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
my motto has always been: "Goth, a way for fat people to seem interesting." but anyway...


maybe they just exist to so you feel superior about yourself.

floatingslowly 03.01.2008 05:02 PM

YES / YES

Savage Clone 03.01.2008 05:04 PM

When pulled off well, the Goth Chick is one of thee hottest creatures on earth.

Pulling it off is the tough part.

flophousefloozie 03.01.2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
there are still goth chicks?

i thought that scene completely dies for everyone after you leave 7th grade.

uh.. yeah.

my motto has always been: "Goth, a way for fat people to seem interesting." but anyway..

just let your buddy be an idiot. or do like me, and find a sweet young quiet girl (trust me when i say quiet girls are the freakiest in bed) and have her dress up as a goth and whatever for your own private sex time. but have her not act like a goth all the time. because who the fuck wants to hang out with a goth chick? "i'm a girl so i have a million more problems than guys do, but i'm also a GOTH girl, so i pretend like i have a million more problems than the average girl does."

fuck any girl who identifies with a scene.


I like that last bit... Unless you were meaning it in a sexual way.

max 03.01.2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
see, i like chicks who look different, but the alternative is now the mainstream. since every girl looks "different" compared to the chicks from like 5 years ago, the "normal" chicks are different now. catch my drift? i just don't want to date the same carbon copy .. yada yada fuck it. instead i'm dating her: http://www.myspace.com/pandaholic_x

she's pretty "normal" looking, except she likes to dress up and do weird stuff that i like. she's cool.


cool, glad for ya. but the myspace link was unnecessary.

Cantankerous 03.01.2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
When pulled off well, the Goth Chick is one of thee hottest creatures on earth.

Pulling it off is the tough part.

in order to pull it off you must steer away from hot topic and/or your local shopping mall and steer towards used/charity shops.

max 03.01.2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
in order to pull it off you must steer away from hot topic and/or your local shopping mall and steer towards used/charity shops.


wise advice from a reliable source?

val-holla-ing 03.01.2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
in order to pull it off you must steer away from hot topic and/or your local shopping mall and steer towards used/charity shops.


is that possible anymore?

Cantankerous 03.01.2008 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max
wise advice from a reliable source?

i am the least goth person you'll ever meet. it's just wise advice to steer clear of the mall anyway.
Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
is that possible anymore?

yes. my closet is a testament to this.

ZEROpumpkins 03.01.2008 11:37 PM

Grr I totally CAN wait for those crappy phones to come out here. It'll suddenly become cool to have an iPhone and everyone without one will be scoffed on by the "cool" kids who begged their parents to buy one for them. Just like with iPods. I know people that never listen to them but just bought them to be cool. Either that or they have them but only have shit they downloaded from limewire on them, usually whatever's in the top 40. People who buy Zens and iRivers actually care about music because they want the best player around, not just one that makes them cool.

Disclaimer: Board members who have iPods are fine because they like Sonic Youth and other good bands. Don't hurt me.

Cantankerous 03.01.2008 11:38 PM

i want an iphone. not to be cool, they're so useful.

ZEROpumpkins 03.01.2008 11:42 PM

I just hate everything that Apple makes by default. Yes, Windows is buggy and whatnot, but is much more compatible with software than Macs. Another thing that shits me off is how every person who makes music on a computer HAS to have a Mac. The majority of soft synths don't even work on Macs. Apple had to start using Intels (a processor that was featured only in PCs) before they actually started to be somewhat decent. Then they made all these ads slagging PCs saying "Now Macs have Intel, so throw out your PCs because they are shit".

Talk about biting the hand that feeds....

Disclaimer: Board members using Macs are cool because they like Sonic Youth and other good bands.

Cantankerous 03.01.2008 11:46 PM

sonic youth uses macs. FOOL.

ZEROpumpkins 03.01.2008 11:48 PM

Well of course it's ok for Sonic Youth to use Macs! They're Sonic Youth!


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