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batreleaser 01.29.2008 10:56 AM

top 5 films of 07
 
The last three months of 07 saw a slew of great movies come out in America to make up for the horrid first three months of awful films. a little late i know but oscars (as lame as they are) are still coming up, so:

1. There Will be Blood
2. Eastern Promises
3. The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
4. No Country For Old Men
5. for way tie:Knocked Up, Superbad, Juno (i hate the music references, but its so smart and quirky and well acted i had to let them slide), and The Dejareeling Limited.

I couldnt help but notice that the best films this year were ultra masculine bloody violent ones, like my top 4, or quirky/gross adolescene comedies. That has to say something about the times we live in, no?

Happy Birthday 01.29.2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by :
batreleaser, on 23 Jan 2008, in the thread "What are some of your favorite movies from 2007?"

1. there will be blood
2. eastern promises/no country for old men
3. the assasination of jesse james by the coward robert ford
4. the dejareeling limited
5. knocked up/superbad
6. american gangster
7. sunshine (everyone slept on this)

of the ones i saw i liked those the best, fuck juno. the girl was great but the movie was trying way to hard to be quirky and weird and cool. stop trying to be rushmore.



Make yr mind up.

5Against1 01.29.2008 11:25 AM

Resident Evil: Extinction, sure it sucked, but Milla Jovovich was in it so I watched it...twice.

afterthefact 01.29.2008 11:32 AM

Why did you hate the musical references in Juno?

batreleaser 01.29.2008 11:39 AM

because they were just trying so hard to be cool. o melvins, so rad, o sonic youth, were so cool, raw power my fave alblum, everyone should like me. sure i love those bands, but nothing about these references seemed authentic, just a cheap ploy to get fans out of the underground music fans and im not buying that bullshit.

afterthefact 01.29.2008 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
because they were just trying so hard to be cool. o melvins, so rad, o sonic youth, were so cool, raw power my fave alblum, everyone should like me. sure i love those bands, but nothing about these references seemed authentic, just a cheap ploy to get fans out of the underground music fans and im not buying that bullshit.


I think you are looking too deep into it. He was a musician and that is where they primarily connected. What music would you rather they have referenced? What music could they mention without either being pretentious or shallow, in your opinion?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 01.29.2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
because they were just trying so hard to be cool. o melvins, so rad, o sonic youth, were so cool, raw power my fave alblum, everyone should like me. sure i love those bands, but nothing about these references seemed authentic, just a cheap ploy to get fans out of the underground music fans and im not buying that bullshit.


i don't think that's what they were going for...


please log off of the internet and never return.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 01.29.2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
The last three months of 07 saw a slew of great movies come out in America to make up for the horrid first three months of awful films. a little late i know but oscars (as lame as they are) are still coming up, so:

1. There Will be Blood
2. Eastern Promises
3. The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
4. No Country For Old Men
5. for way tie:Knocked Up, Superbad, Juno (i hate the music references, but its so smart and quirky and well acted i had to let them slide), and The Dejareeling Limited.

I couldnt help but notice that the best films this year were ultra masculine bloody violent ones, like my top 4, or quirky/gross adolescene comedies. That has to say something about the times we live in, no?


I thought Darjeeling Limited was better than Juno and Juno was better than Superbad and Superbad was better than Knocked Up.

batreleaser 01.29.2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Birthday
Make yr mind up.



minds chance after more reads/views/listens, etc...

batreleaser 01.29.2008 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
i don't think that's what they were going for...


please log off of the internet and never return.



if they werent going for a cool factor, what could they have possibly been going for? the movie is entertaining, but jason bateman as a rocking perverted middle aged dude who of all the amazing sonic youth songs chose "superstar" as his favorite, just competley non-believable. just the fact they chose a song like that from a band like the youth proves they know nothing about that band or underground music, but used it as a ploy to grab attention hip to good music. if you see otherwise thats your opinion but thats no reason to get all uptight and tell me to, "log off and never return". god forbid we share opinions on a fucking message board.

batreleaser 01.29.2008 04:23 PM

*of people hip to good music

k-krack 01.29.2008 04:25 PM

Darjeeling Limited
Juno
Superbad

in no particular order, and I barely even realized Superbad was '07! I'm probably forgetting something, btu I didnt go to many movies this year...

!@#$%! 01.29.2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
if they werent going for a cool factor, what could they have possibly been going for? the movie is entertaining, but jason bateman as a rocking perverted middle aged dude who of all the amazing sonic youth songs chose "superstar" as his favorite, just competley non-believable. just the fact they chose a song like that from a band like the youth proves they know nothing about that band or underground music, but used it as a ploy to grab attention hip to good music. if you see otherwise thats your opinion but thats no reason to get all uptight and tell me to, "log off and never return". god forbid we share opinions on a fucking message board.


earth to batreleaser:
did you get that it's just a fucking movie character whose choice of seduction sountrack you're arguing about?

the whole point of this is that he's stuck in the early 90's. that is all. he's not supposed to be the pope of all things musical. why are you trying to read some esoteric meaning into this?


 

nicfit 01.29.2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
if they werent going for a cool factor, what could they have possibly been going for? the movie is entertaining, but jason bateman as a rocking perverted middle aged dude who of all the amazing sonic youth songs chose "superstar" as his favorite, just competley non-believable. just the fact they chose a song like that from a band like the youth proves they know nothing about that band or underground music, but used it as a ploy to grab attention hip to good music. if you see otherwise thats your opinion but thats no reason to get all uptight and tell me to, "log off and never return". god forbid we share opinions on a fucking message board.

Bah, Hmmm, what about the bit where she goes "btw, I bought another sonic youth album and it sucks, it's just noise!".
The choice of the song proves nothing more beside the fact that the character in the movie likes it, who knows, maybe it's just the song he and his wife used to dance to..saying "favorite" is waaaaay different from saying "it's their best one". If they wanted to have a cool-hip factor kimya dawson isn't the best choice for the rest of the soundtrack. I think you're giving too much weight to that bit, that's all. You can stay logged on :D.

batreleaser 01.29.2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
earth to batreleaser:
did you get that it's just a fucking movie character whose choice of seduction sountrack you're arguing about?

the whole point of this is that he's stuck in the early 90's. that is all. he's not supposed to be the pope of all things musical. why are you trying to read some esoteric meaning into this?




 



you know, i think youre right, im sold. ive realized that maybe im so hard on that movie is because maybe, besides the girl who was fantastic, i just dont like the film. scratch it off my list.

Everyneurotic 01.29.2008 04:54 PM

5 films of 2007?

make it 1:

1. simpsons movie.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 01.29.2008 04:55 PM

simpsons movie was terrible

davenotdead 01.29.2008 04:56 PM

it was mediocre

!@#$%! 01.29.2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
you know, i think youre right, im sold. ive realized that maybe im so hard on that movie is because maybe, besides the girl who was fantastic, i just dont like the film. scratch it off my list.


ah ok. the movie was, shall we say, "cute". juno's lines were very funny. ellen page's face was super-lovely. allison janney is awesome, she should have have more screen time. the dude who played the dad was great, whats his name. i can't stand that chick with the horseface-- the elektra chick.

still, the movie didn't blow my mind or anything. some parts were confusing, like, was she trying to hit on the guy or what? and then she becomes sanctimonious? it's like they cut something out.

but i had a fun time...

Everyneurotic 01.29.2008 05:12 PM

fuck off!

my favorite movie of the year, by far.

ChocolateJesus 01.29.2008 05:22 PM

Lars and the Real Girl
No Country for Old Men
Control
Darjeeling Limited
and yes, I liked Juno.

!@#$%! 01.29.2008 05:26 PM

eastern promises > juno > control

Rob Instigator 01.29.2008 05:59 PM

I do not know if I have watched 5 movies from last year

I really really liked

Charlie Wilson's War (saw it last week. very funny and biting for such a very serious issue)
No Country For Old Men (fucking awesome movie. Hitchock would have been very proud of the Coens.)
Eastern Promises ( the single greatest hand to hand fight scene ever)

batreleaser 01.29.2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ah ok. the movie was, shall we say, "cute". juno's lines were very funny. ellen page's face was super-lovely. allison janney is awesome, she should have have more screen time. the dude who played the dad was great, whats his name. i can't stand that chick with the horseface-- the elektra chick.

still, the movie didn't blow my mind or anything. some parts were confusing, like, was she trying to hit on the guy or what? and then she becomes sanctimonious? it's like they cut something out.

but i had a fun time...



yeah the guy who played the dad, i can never remember his name, hes actually one of the better charachters actors out there. he was great in juno, was one of the only things worth watching thank you smoking for, and less we forget, his charachter on oz, the defacto bad guy of a show all about bad guys, as an ultra sadist, sexually repressed rapist, mega sinister, leader of the aryan brotherhood. he was ultra scary on that show, episode 1 hes introduced to the audience by raping and tattoing a swastika on the ass of the lawyer guy beecher. great actor.

batreleaser 01.29.2008 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I do not know if I have watched 5 movies from last year

I really really liked

Charlie Wilson's War (saw it last week. very funny and biting for such a very serious issue)
No Country For Old Men (fucking awesome movie. Hitchock would have been very proud of the Coens.)
Eastern Promises ( the single greatest hand to hand fight scene ever)



oh dude, forget hand to hand, that was the best fight scene period. beats even scorceses more memorable ones. just so over the top, i love the end when viggo is climbing over the supposed dead guy and the guy wakes up and strangles him, so viggo breaks his arm in three places and then puts the knife in his eye. just for extra effect, haha, i loved it.

LifeDistortion 01.29.2008 06:36 PM

Juno Dad is actor JK Simmons. The guy has done a lot of things. Was looking at his filmography. He was in "Arrestted Developement", he was on "OZ", and of course he was JJ Jameson in the "Spider-Man" movies, but the one that put a smile on my face, he did an episode of "The Adventures of Pete and Pete".

batreleaser 01.29.2008 10:26 PM

control was only playing two nights here in tucson, and of course i was in pheonix those two nights. Actually i was playing guitar in my friends shortlived band, they needed some extra sound or some shit, it was fun i remember. Moral of the story, i missed control, and cant wait till it comes out on dvd.

!@#$%! 01.29.2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
control was only playing two nights here in tucson, and of course i was in pheonix those two nights. Actually i was playing guitar in my friends shortlived band, they needed some extra sound or some shit, it was fun i remember. Moral of the story, i missed control, and cant wait till it comes out on dvd.


it's alright, its not "great" unless youre a joy division fan i guess. good movie, black & white & shot in scope (anamorphic), a most unusual combination. some people complained it's too much the wife's persperctive but DUH its based on her autobiography. good movie no question-- a masterpiece not.

nicfit 01.30.2008 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
yeah the guy who played the dad, i can never remember his name, hes actually one of the better charachters actors out there[...]his charachter on oz, the defacto bad guy of a show all about bad guys, as an ultra sadist, sexually repressed rapist, mega sinister, leader of the aryan brotherhood. he was ultra scary on that show, episode 1 hes introduced to the audience by raping and tattoing a swastika on the ass of the lawyer guy beecher. great actor.


Yessssss, when I saw him in Juno I couldn't help but thinking "...he's gonna slice her throat...."

batreleaser 01.30.2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
it's alright, its not "great" unless youre a joy division fan i guess. good movie, black & white & shot in scope (anamorphic), a most unusual combination. some people complained it's too much the wife's persperctive but DUH its based on her autobiography. good movie no question-- a masterpiece not.



i am a joy division fan

!@#$%! 01.30.2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
i am a joy division fan


yeah, aren't we all? i did enjoy getting the dirt on ian curtis a bit-- i really had a good time watching and the soundtrack (played by the actors). just saying i dont see it a some sort of genius movie that will change the course of film history.

afterthefact 01.30.2008 10:23 AM

I don't know if I saw 5 movies last year? Ratatouille? I don't know, we have a kid , and we see more kid movies than anything :)

gmku 01.30.2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
because they were just trying so hard to be cool. o melvins, so rad, o sonic youth, were so cool, raw power my fave alblum, everyone should like me. sure i love those bands, but nothing about these references seemed authentic, just a cheap ploy to get fans out of the underground music fans and im not buying that bullshit.


If you haven't noticed, you're not much in favor for making this remark. I'll join in by saying better those musical references than something lame like, say, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, or Radiohead.

afterthefact 01.30.2008 10:41 AM

SPeaking of bad music in movies (not that Juno had bad music, but whatever) did anybody see August Rush? What a God-awful film. I think somebody saw one too many Andy Mckee videos and and decided to make a movie. Than the boy's dad was in a rock band that wrote Bush-esque songs that made you want to vomit. I only stayed cause of a friend of mine invited me and I didn't want to hurt their feelings, otherwise I would have just walked out.

clever name 01.31.2008 09:38 AM

I'm a film student, so I take this all way too seriously. Please, forgive me.



ALEX LAVIN'S 10 FAVORITE MOVIES FROM 2007
no order; all movies with first U.S. distribution in 2007


Bug
Do call it a comeback for director William Friedkin, thanks in part to a shattering performance from Ashley Judd. This claustrophobic, delirious, and finally tragic piece of chamber cinema is an itchy good nightmare.


The Darjeeling Limited
Wes Anderson fine-tunes that inimitable preciosity to deliver his most focused and affecting tale of arrested development yet. Lines like “We haven’t found where we are yet; hey, is that symbolic?” attest to its verve.


Death Proof
Tarantino divides people roughly along lines of moral seriousness. Love or loathe his doses of puerile pop, though, surely his is one of the most beguiling cinematic addresses to the spectator that Hollywood has bankrolled.


The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
A film ostensibly about real-life vegetable Jean-Dominique Bauby, it’s actually Julian Schnabel and Janusz Kaminski’s pornographically indulgent cine-poem of beautiful, crying French women. If only his paintings were as good.


Eastern Promises
If he’s good enough for Martin Scorsese, then you should love David Cronenberg too. Another classically spare film that’s fun in the way hugging a porcupine must be; the novelty of the encounter distracts from the pain.


Fay Grim
Hal Hartley introduced this at the IFC Center by encouraging us to enjoy our confounding. This most Bresson-ian of American filmmakers’ films sink or float by casting, and Parker Posey steadies the course admirably.


I'm Not There
The carefully judged interplay of ideas and emotions that drives all of Todd Haynes’ work paves the way for the future of American cinema. This is most distinguished for having so assuredly executed its bold central conceit.




No Country for Old Men
There’s something going on in this movie that has to do with the killing of people and the killing of beasts. I don’t know exactly what it is, but go back and see for yourself, the boys know what they’re doing, something’s up.


Southland Tales
This jarring, caustic gambit is both half-baked and overly determined at once. For all the script’s brash ambition, though, it’s the inexplicably dissonant acting that makes this a truly unique and baffling viewing experience.


Zodiac
Another masquerading film. This true-story serial killer manhunt gradually decodes its myriad plot events as an avant-garde meditation on time, verity, and other imaginary concepts underlying human existence.

3 FAVORITE SHORT MOVIES:

The Shock Doctrine
Alfonso Cuaron’s companion to Naomi Klein’s book of the same name; if it ain’t broke, pretend it is and take it.

Western Union: Small Boats
Isaac Julien’s installation about the oft-fatal voyages of refugees from Africa to Sicily is menacingly baroque.

No Part of the Pig Is Wasted
Debut auteur Emma Perret was tellingly taciturn at NYFF about this sublime short; she serves up a lot to chew on.


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