This is what they play in this large men's traditional gay pub in central london that we go to, every now and then:

Sonic Youth
Tortoise
Jesus & Mary Chain
Metallica
Captain Beefheart
Motorhead
ac/dc
Royal Trux

Yesterday i spotted this large mountain wearing a Burzum t-shirt.

[_slavo_]

That ain't bad...except for Metallica.

Not just a bar but an entire scene with bars, coach trips, football team, bear mass etc. Anything that would get them to shift the pound.

[sonicl]

Is bears' expenditure still referred to as the "pink pound"? Or is that only for camp gays?

[pbradley]

Gays go camping?

I don't know. It's only in the past few years that bears have become more and more popular on the gay scene. I think that's because more and more guys are tired of silly, bitchy camp queens, even though fetishizing someone just because of their body size is just as bad.

edit - sonicl

[quote=Nefeli]hahaa...thats awesome..
although would expect that they might need the variety, or what if a nonbear (dont know if there s a term here) wants to "join"?

quote]

They're called 'chasers'.

Originally Posted by Nefeli

chasing (the bear...) -thanks.


you are absolutely right of course.
just seeing the issue of random sex being usually taking so lightly and with humor, using terms and categorising people like this didnt shock me or made me think in politically correct way, have to admit.

Absolutely. There's nothing wrong with using those terms, and they have been invented by gays themselves, so there's nothing offensive about them. In my experience bears are just happy to be thought of as that, rather than, erm, fat b......... It gives them the status of sex gods, rather than being thought of as someone who might have a slight eating problem, and therefore a mental one too. I just find it kinda wrong, because i don't like people who define their sex appeal by their own looks alone, but then i find a lot of things wrong in general.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

i don't like people who define their sex appeal by their own looks alone

looks or no looks, how does one define their own sex appeal?

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

looks or no looks, how does one define their own sex appeal?

By making themselves fall into a category of people who are the object of sexual desire.

[Toilet & Bowels]

i guess that's probably easier if you are gay

And it was indeed referred to gay stereotypical types more than anything.

[Iain]

I define my sex appeal as excellent!

[Toilet & Bowels]

so your saying guys make a point of becoming bears? i always assumed they were bears because they didn't give a shit.

Originally Posted by Nefeli

well, sex talk is main subject among gay people, more open and likely to happen. also not such a wide community as straight people, so categorising or stereotyping is more easy to happen. i think.

Exactly. I can't count how many times a simple chat with someone lead to the question 'mine or yours?'. You start thinking that a lot of gays are mainly motivated by sex and not much else. I repeat, a lot of gay men, not all of us.

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

so your saying guys make a point of becoming bears? i always assumed they were bears because they didn't give a shit.

They are more conscious of being that now, and that's because they seem on demand a lot at the moment. If you have a proliification of gay bars and clubs that are mostly frequented by hairy big types, i assume that you are making quite a point of being known as a bear.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Exactly. I can't count how many times a simple chat with someone lead to the question 'mine or yours?'. You start thinking that a lot of gays are mainly motivated by sex and not much else. I repeat, a lot of gay men, not all of us.

i think that's just men, not specificly gays. if women had the sex drive of men we'd still be living in caves.

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i think that's just men, not specificly gays. if women had the sex drive of men we'd still be living in caves.

You're right to an extent, but read Nefeli's post above mine, because it says it better than i did. Sex comes up constantly in a lot of conversations amongst gays, that's a fact.

[sonicl]

Are there a lot of bears around? And how common among gays is a taste for bears?

What I'm asking, I suppose, is does a fat bloke have a better chance of getting his end away as a gay than as a straight guy?

[jico.]

so, bears are the gay kings. haha great... what's so sex appealling in bear?