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Old 12.29.2006, 11:11 PM   #1
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I don't understand wht Text of Light use the same logo as PIL. and why they have the same metal case thing. why
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Old 12.29.2006, 11:35 PM   #2
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It's called homage/tribute.
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Old 12.30.2006, 06:27 AM   #3
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in the same way that the rapture formed in homage to the cure and p.i.l.

sorry, i meant to say ripped off!!! t.o.l. are in homage mode tho
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Old 12.30.2006, 04:49 PM   #4
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in the same way that the rapture formed in homage to the cure and p.i.l.

sorry, i meant to say ripped off!!! t.o.l. are in homage mode tho

you know, if you meant to say something else you could have changed it before you posted it...
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Old 12.30.2006, 04:50 PM   #5
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Old 12.31.2006, 01:11 AM   #6
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It's called homage/tribute.

Its called unoriginal rip-off with no connection in referencing the music itself you stupid fucking cunt. (not you, the computer. its being slow).


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Old 12.31.2006, 01:24 AM   #7
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Its called unoriginal rip-off with no connection in referencing the music itself you stupid fucking cunt. (not you, the computer. its being slow).


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Whoa. Take it easy, pal. How could you be talking to the computer when yr clearly talking to me? That was highly unnecessary if you ask me.
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Old 12.31.2006, 01:37 AM   #8
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It's called homage/tribute.
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Old 12.31.2006, 04:55 AM   #9
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Old 12.31.2006, 05:01 AM   #10
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in a similar way the cameron crowe movie vanilla sky had a homage to the cover of the freewheelin' bob dylan in the film
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Old 12.31.2006, 05:15 AM   #11
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Why shouldn't ToL reference PIL with the CD packaging?
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Old 12.31.2006, 07:46 AM   #12
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Uh...it couldn't be anything other than deliberate.
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Old 12.31.2006, 07:53 AM   #13
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it's called "homage/pastiche" according to one press release I saw
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Old 12.31.2006, 08:01 AM   #14
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Rip-offs and homages of record covers, and indeed of records, is as old as rock/pop music itself. I recommend this excellent book:

http://www.amazon.com/1000-Record-Co...e=UTF8&s=books

which demonstrates this fact nicely.
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Old 12.31.2006, 08:51 AM   #15
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Rip-offs and homages of record covers, and indeed of records, is as old as rock/pop music itself. I recommend this excellent book:

http://www.amazon.com/1000-Record-Co...e=UTF8&s=books

which demonstrates this fact nicely.

i got that book for christmas two years ago
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Old 12.31.2006, 07:17 PM   #16
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you, thread starter are an idiot.

pil did the metal box packaging because they thought of their music to have more in common with film than rock (they counted jeanette lee, their videographer, as a group member in the liner notes).

text of light improvise music to the films of stan brakhage, connecting music to film. they pay homage to pil too, of course.
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Old 12.31.2006, 10:41 PM   #17
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Old 12.31.2006, 10:42 PM   #18
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you, thread starter are an idiot.


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Old 01.01.2007, 09:37 AM   #19
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well..."uh" i havent seen it yet.

which really qualified you to reply in this thread
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Old 01.20.2007, 09:29 AM   #20
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This sort of thing can be done very well(as in the case of Text Of Light) if the musicians paying homage are worthy of homage themselves.Anyway,been listening to PIL a great deal recently.
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