[Moshe]

http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/04/...sons-i-learned

[Chris Lawrence]

I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?

I think she might be the only one they every really ask that question to point blank, I haven't really seen Lee or Thurston address that question directly..

I think certain biological realities of age have caught up with the band, and while they're ALL making and performing music elsewhere I think they've each looked back on thirty years and said, "Maybe it was enough?"

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I don't read every interview, but is Kim the only one who consistently refers to Sonic Youth as "over"?

I read every interview and YES.

Lee will not be definitive, deflecting the topic by discussing the back catalog of recordings live and in studio.

No one seems to ever interview Steve.

and Thurston avoids the topic like the plague.

[Genteel Death]

I wonder why.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I read every interview and YES.

Lee will not be definitive, deflecting the topic by discussing the back catalog of recordings live and in studio.

No one seems to ever interview Steve.

and Thurston avoids the topic like the plague.

Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.

Very well said, there.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? r to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.
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Swa(y), I was referring to whether Sonic Youth is broken up or will work again in the future, not about what caused T & K's breakup.

[Rob Instigator]

the indie girls can't stop grabbing Thurston's thighslapper

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

Thurston has said everything he needs to say, which is by far more than he should be expected to say. I mean, what more is there to say? He made a common mistake most adults find themselves dealing with at some point. I think he's handled it rather well from what I can gather. I find it confusing (as well as amusing) that some fans feel as if they are owed more than what they've been given. You'd think 30 years of music and touring would be enough, but no! They need the inside scoop on situations they themselves have likely been involved in, and certainly many of their parents. PEOPLE CHEAT! Is it ok, no. But they do. People also steal and fart in public spaces. Sex is human nature. Human nature offers both good and bad sides. Or sides that offer more in the way of learning experiences, as I tend to prefer to view it. Moping and years of regret gets no one anywhere.


And as should be obvious, the members of SY were rather bored with the band for some time. I'm more interested in watching how their individual projects evolve than I am witnessing another "Rather Ripped" or "Eternal" (which in all fairness wasn't awful...but all things considered wasn't one of their strongest efforts by a long shot). I only feel bad for younger people and those who were never given the chance to see them. They always put on an amazing show.

I'm hard pressed to believe that there will never be another show, however. Even though I hardly care. They were a hard working band for a long time. Kim and Thurston's relationship lasted far longer than most. I'm sure they are both enjoying themselves now in ways neither have been able to in a long time. If not, they should be.

And no doubt there will be future releases. Too much unreleased recorded material for there to not be.

I am the one who have had twice chance to see them, but never saw them. The first time their gig was 600km away from me & I haven´t got enough money. Second time there was family reasons. But if I had known 2003 was last time in Finland, I would have really tried to see them even it would be difficult.

One fact is no-one of them can´t make as great material alone as they made together in SY. Well, if they will make one tour and come to Finland (or at least in Sweden) I will be satisfied. But if they won´t ever reunite, I just have to be satisfied. I really have enjoyed their solos althought they´re not as great as any SY record.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

I am the one who have had twice chance to see them, but never saw them. The first time their gig was 600km away from me & I haven´t got enough money. Second time there was family reasons. But if I had known 2003 was last time in Finland, I would have really tried to see them even it would be difficult.

One fact is no-one of them can´t make as great material alone as they made together in SY. Well, if they will make one tour and come to Finland (or at least in Sweden) I will be satisfied. But if they won´t ever reunite, I just have to be satisfied. I really have enjoyed their solos althought they´re not as great as any SY record.

I saw them four times, and not once was I disappointed. And again, I would by no means be shocked if they played again at some point. We shall see. Since the break up, I've seen Lee once, Thurston when he was touring the Demolished Thoughts material, and Kim once w/ White/Light. All three shows were great. Catch 'em if ya can, friend.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I saw them four times, and not once was I disappointed. And again, I would by no means be shocked if they played again at some point. We shall see. Since the break up, I've seen Lee once, Thurston when he was touring the Demolished Thoughts material, and Kim once w/ White/Light. All three shows were great. Catch 'em if ya can, friend.

I´ve seen Kim & Ikue, CLM & Lee & Dust very recently. Kim & Ikue and Lee with Dust were just fantastic! (Only SY member I haven´t seen on stage is Steve, because he was ill in scandinavian tour) There were moments that sounded me SY! In CLM gig all the other than Thurston seemed to be bored. Also sounds were awful. But still, I would like to see SY at least once...

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

(i also like lena dunham the writer-- but that's a different story)

Wow, they're really going after her for her new book. Personally. I think childhood sexuality should remain in childhood, I would imagine her sister is not pleased with all this revealed. Kids do a lot of things that are best left in childhood. They're children.

[Rob Instigator]

childhood things when seen through the eyes of jaded adults can seem HORRIBLE, but it is because we add all the terrible baggage and horror we have onto it.

Lena Dunham likes to pretend she is some sort of idiot savant but she knows exactly what she is doing.