Lana Del Rey ripping off SY? - Page 2

rebeccagotcursedout · 02.19.2015, 09:59 PM

sleepiness here, so give me a break: i've seen pics of Lana Ray's pretty face and never heard any of her music. so my intuition tells me why bother.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.20.2015, 02:16 AM

What did she say to Pitchfork?

What did LDR tweet for Kim to call her a legit idiot?

halgreen · 02.20.2015, 02:59 AM

Pitchfork posted an excerpt from Kim's book.

A fake LDR twitter called Kim a legit idiot.

Toilet & Bowels · 02.20.2015, 03:01 AM

Oh man, this makes being an SY fan feel new and exciting again!

Nefeli · 02.20.2015, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead_battery

kim is a badass.

woah at the energy to critique extensively other people's work.

whorefrost · 02.20.2015, 08:31 AM

yeah it's fucking cool

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 02.20.2015, 09:37 AM

Sounds like Kim shoulda went full Beastmode, "y'all know why im here."

Genteel Death · 02.22.2015, 12:53 AM

Has there been any blowback from him or the other people you mention in the book?

KIm: Not really -- I mean, not yet. I only mention Billy [Corgan] in trying to explain a sociological moment in indie rock. And I didn't want to write about Courtney; that was something my editor was interested in. With Lana Del Rey, it's all wondering what her persona is. She's interesting because she uses self-destruction as the next step in sexuality and self-branding. I just think her music is kind of boring.

Genteel Death · 02.22.2015, 01:39 AM

#JeSuisKim: Why Kim Gordon and Her New Memoir Will Outlive the Lana Del Rey Twitter Controversy

http://www.vogue.com/11368171/kim-go...a-band-memoir/

ann ashtray · 02.22.2015, 02:36 AM

Kim's take on feminism is a bit outmoded. Unless, of course, feminism is about one women telling other women how they should live their lives. Younger girls dating gross old men? Garbage. What about older women who brag about younger men displaying an interest in them (as we saw in the Jezebel article). No fucking difference.

And Courtney never claimed to be part of "Riot Grrrl". If anything, she was (and is) something bigger and better than that. She's always been fucked up, sure, but at least she's been consistent. I don't think the same thing can be said about Kathleen. She was mouthing off, that's why Courtney punched her. It happens sometimes when people fail to mind their own business. Which, of course, doesn't make it "OK", but what is normal isn't always widely regarded as "OK". People are violent.

And did the Pumpkins ever claim to be punk rock? Sure they suck, but did they ever claim to be punk rock? Are Sonic Youth, (let's be really technical about this...) punk rock? Why is Kim an authority? Did she start punk? Did she partake in jumpstarting what would become known as punk? Was she thrashing about some stage at the same time as Patti (infinitely cooler than any woman mentioned in this post)? No. I mean shit, Lydia was active before Kim and even Lydia never claimed to be punk rock. Sure Kim shaped things and means a lot of good things to a lot of boys and girls in this world. But I don't think, at the end of the day, things would be much different in the world of feminist rock had Kim never existed. There were plenty doing it before her...some of which who are still at it and who still kick ass.

And holy shit why do these people still use the term "punk" as if it has some value. Is punk rock Sex Pistols boxers being sold at Target? I mean, TECHNICALLY the Pistols were and are more punk rock than Sonic Youth...if only because they existed as a punk rock band some years before Sonic Youth was even an idea. Are Sonic Youth more punk rock than the Pistols because I can't buy their tees at Target? Stupid.

Niagara was doing the same exact thing Kim would go on to do years before Kim would do it. Check out the new Destroy All Monsters box set. It's amazing. in fact, my GF thought she was listening to some early SY stuff when I first put it on (she's not really into SY too much). Guess what...it happened way before Kim was doing anything music related.
This whole this is so stupid.

Genteel Death · 02.22.2015, 03:03 AM

Nefeli · 02.22.2015, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whorefrost

yeah it's fucking cool

didnt really mean it as a good thing. i m neutral on this, coz its kim.
and i m torn because it is kim.
and i ll probably read the book, because it is kim.

Nefeli · 02.22.2015, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

xxx

_tunic_ · 02.22.2015, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

#JeSuisKim: ...

whoever thought of using that as a title should be shot

twice

02.19.2015, 09:59 PM	#21
rebeccagotcursedout stalker Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 379	sleepiness here, so give me a break: i've seen pics of Lana Ray's pretty face and never heard any of her music. so my intuition tells me why bother.
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02.20.2015, 02:16 AM	#22
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	What did she say to Pitchfork? What did LDR tweet for Kim to call her a legit idiot?
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02.20.2015, 02:59 AM	#23
halgreen stalker Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 469	Pitchfork posted an excerpt from Kim's book. A fake LDR twitter called Kim a legit idiot.
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02.20.2015, 03:01 AM	#24
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	Oh man, this makes being an SY fan feel new and exciting again!
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02.20.2015, 08:31 AM	#26
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,572	yeah it's fucking cool __________________ hehehe
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02.20.2015, 09:37 AM	#27
SuchFriendsAreDangerous invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fucking Los Angeles Posts: 14,801	Sounds like Kim shoulda went full Beastmode, "y'all know why im here." __________________ Today Rap music is the Lakers
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02.22.2015, 12:53 AM	#28
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	Has there been any blowback from him or the other people you mention in the book? KIm: Not really -- I mean, not yet. I only mention Billy [Corgan] in trying to explain a sociological moment in indie rock. And I didn't want to write about Courtney; that was something my editor was interested in. With Lana Del Rey, it's all wondering what her persona is. She's interesting because she uses self-destruction as the next step in sexuality and self-branding. I just think her music is kind of boring.
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02.22.2015, 01:39 AM	#29
Genteel Death invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,744	#JeSuisKim: Why Kim Gordon and Her New Memoir Will Outlive the Lana Del Rey Twitter Controversy http://www.vogue.com/11368171/kim-go...a-band-memoir/
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02.22.2015, 02:36 AM	#30
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	Kim's take on feminism is a bit outmoded. Unless, of course, feminism is about one women telling other women how they should live their lives. Younger girls dating gross old men? Garbage. What about older women who brag about younger men displaying an interest in them (as we saw in the Jezebel article). No fucking difference. And Courtney never claimed to be part of "Riot Grrrl". If anything, she was (and is) something bigger and better than that. She's always been fucked up, sure, but at least she's been consistent. I don't think the same thing can be said about Kathleen. She was mouthing off, that's why Courtney punched her. It happens sometimes when people fail to mind their own business. Which, of course, doesn't make it "OK", but what is normal isn't always widely regarded as "OK". People are violent. And did the Pumpkins ever claim to be punk rock? Sure they suck, but did they ever claim to be punk rock? Are Sonic Youth, (let's be really technical about this...) punk rock? Why is Kim an authority? Did she start punk? Did she partake in jumpstarting what would become known as punk? Was she thrashing about some stage at the same time as Patti (infinitely cooler than any woman mentioned in this post)? No. I mean shit, Lydia was active before Kim and even Lydia never claimed to be punk rock. Sure Kim shaped things and means a lot of good things to a lot of boys and girls in this world. But I don't think, at the end of the day, things would be much different in the world of feminist rock had Kim never existed. There were plenty doing it before her...some of which who are still at it and who still kick ass. And holy shit why do these people still use the term "punk" as if it has some value. Is punk rock Sex Pistols boxers being sold at Target? I mean, TECHNICALLY the Pistols were and are more punk rock than Sonic Youth...if only because they existed as a punk rock band some years before Sonic Youth was even an idea. Are Sonic Youth more punk rock than the Pistols because I can't buy their tees at Target? Stupid. Niagara was doing the same exact thing Kim would go on to do years before Kim would do it. Check out the new Destroy All Monsters box set. It's amazing. in fact, my GF thought she was listening to some early SY stuff when I first put it on (she's not really into SY too much). Guess what...it happened way before Kim was doing anything music related. This whole this is so stupid. __________________ Team Thurston!
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02.22.2015, 03:03 AM	#31
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