[Toilet & Bowels]

I feel sick

[demonrail666]

If I could, I'd emigrate.

[Keeping It Gimple]

at least farage lost

the cunt

[demonrail666]

Frees him up to present Top Gear

[!@#$%!]

sounds like the SNP did okay though

isn't that a good thing for scotland?

funny after losing that referendum

[demonrail666]

The SNP will obviously promote Scottish interests better than any English-based party would, and they have a very charismatic leader, but a Tory majority means they'll wield almost no genuine power at all.

The only winners in this are the Tories and those who tend to do well regardless of who's in power.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

The SNP will obviously promote Scottish interests better than any English-based party would, and they have a very charismatic leader, but a Tory majority means they'll wield almost no genuine power at all.

that's the fate of all colonized nations though. but at least they seem to have something going on whereas everyone else is on a slow death train

Originally Posted by demonrail666

The only winners in this are the Tories and those who tend to do well regardless of who's in power.

so why do people keep voting them in? i'm curious. i understand how white american poors vote against their own interests (identity politics trumping class concerns), but i don't get england.

[Keeping It Gimple]

imagine a populace so deferent, so utterly dedicated to placid contentment, so thrilled at the prospect of seeming more stuffy and mediocre than the next person, with none of that satanic american individualism and little anti government paranoia, then take a right wing economic narrative that is false but goes totally and utterly unquestioned even by the opposition, and add a propaganda campaign taking place in all major media, and you have a recipe for scared voters just wanting respite from the fear of missing rent payments, stupidly thinking that voting conservative is gonna make them richer

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

 

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Keeping It Gimple

imagine a populace so deferent, so utterly dedicated to placid contentment, so thrilled at the prospect of seeming more stuffy and mediocre than the next person, with none of that satanic american individualism and little anti government paranoia, then take a right wing economic narrative that is false but goes totally and utterly unquestioned even by the opposition, and add a propaganda campaign taking place in all major media, and you have a recipe for scared voters just wanting respite from the fear of missing rent payments, stupidly thinking that voting conservative is gonna make them richer

Completely agree in terms of the Tories, but the successes of UKIP and the SNP means a large percentage of the population are motivated by more than just financial prosperity. Labour lost the economic vote to the Tories but they also seem to have lost the cultural one to nationalists.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Keeping It Gimple

imagine a populace so deferent, so utterly dedicated to placid contentment, so thrilled at the prospect of seeming more stuffy and mediocre than the next person, with none of that satanic american individualism and little anti government paranoia

damn. do people at least leave you alone if you don't comply? or is there pressure to be-- placid, content, stuffy & mediocre? if so, what form does it take?

Originally Posted by demonrail666

Completely agree in terms of the Tories, but the successes of UKIP and the SNP means a large percentage of the population are motivated by more than just financial prosperity. Labour lost the economic vote to the Tories but they also seem to have lost the cultural one to nationalists.

and wtf is this UKIP i've never heard about?

i'm looking at their very-purple website and get little information.

e.g.:

http://www.ukip.org/tags/immigration

says "The page you were looking for was not found."

great platform!

[demonrail666]

UKIP are probably the big story in recent British politics. They've managed to harness popular fears about the EU and immigration, presenting themselves as a voice for those who feel that they're being ignored by the 'political establishment' (a term UKIP love to use). Their main asset so far (until he lost his seat this morning) has been their leader, Nigel Farage, who became something of a voice for angry white middle class England - very much the political equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson. The big question now will be how they move forward without him, just as the big question about Top Gear is how it moves on without Clarkson.

 

[!@#$%!]

midddle class? so these are not like the proletarian skinheads of the 70s/80s/whenever?

see, this is the kind of info you don't get on wikipedia.

it's a product of the ongoing proletarization of the middle class, isn't it?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

UKIP are probably the big story in recent British politics. They've managed to harness popular fears about the EU and immigration, presenting themselves as a voice for those who feel that they're being ignored by the 'political establishment' (a term UKIP love to use). Their main asset so far (until he lost his seat this morning) has been their leader, Nigel Farage, who became something of a voice for angry white middle class England - very much the political equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson. The big question now will be how they move forward without him, just as the big question about Top Gear is how it moves on without Clarkson.

 

So they're milking the Nixon Revolution approach of stoking racist resentments like dickhead Pete Wilson also did when he tried to destroy California?

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

midddle class? so these are not like the proletarian skinheads of the 70s/80s/whenever?

see, this is the kind of info you don't get on wikipedia.

it's a product of the ongoing proletarization of the middle class, isn't it?

I would say they traverse the class divide in a way that I think a lot of other political entities would love to be able to do.
They got a lot of votes for a fringe party but luckily due to our antiquated system they only got 1 seat in parliament.