[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Freud and cocaine

Freud was an early user and proponent of cocaine as a stimulant as well as analgesic. He wrote several articles on the antidepressant qualities of the drug and he was influenced by his friend and confidant Wilhelm Fliess, who recommended cocaine for the treatment of the "nasal reflex neurosis." Fliess operated on Freud and a number of Freud's patients whom he believed to be suffering from the disorder, including Emma Eckstein, whose surgery proved disastrous.[citation needed].
Freud felt that cocaine would work as a panacea for many disorders and wrote a well-received paper, "On Coca," explaining its virtues. He prescribed it to his friend Ernst von Fleischl-Marxow to help him overcome a morphine addiction he had acquired while treating a disease of the nervous system.[citation needed] Freud also recommended it to many of his close family and friends. He narrowly missed out on obtaining scientific priority for discovering cocaine's anesthetic properties (of which Freud was aware but on which he had not written extensively), after Karl Koller, a colleague of Freud's in Vienna, presented a report to a medical society in 1884 outlining the ways in which cocaine could be used for delicate eye surgery. Freud was bruised by this, especially because this would turn out to be one of the few safe uses of cocaine, as reports of addiction and overdose began to filter in from many places in the world. Freud's medical reputation became somewhat tarnished because of this early ambition. Furthermore, Freud's friend Fleischl-Marxow developed an acute case of "cocaine psychosis" as a result of Freud's prescriptions and died a few years later. Freud felt great regret over these events, which later biographers have dubbed "The Cocaine Incident."[citation needed] However, he managed to move on, and even continued to use cocaine.
Jurgen von Scheidt speculated that most of Freud's psychoanalytical theory was a byproduct of his cocaine use.


I disagree with the last sentence, I think he was a brilliant man, but to use that quote by him to justify Cocaine as an ok drug is kind of insane.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

 

I dont recall Freud ever proposing any sort of legitimate psychological/psychoanalytical use for cocaine, such as those which are currently conducted in the Netherlands using MDMA and also those which were suggested by Jung in the early 1960s involving LSD. in the end, it really just seems that he liked the stuff, which is fine, many many people do.

of course, me myself, I'm with Pato sayin

"I do not snort the coke I only smoke sensimilla!"

[jon boy]

i dont really see what cocaine has done to influence sonic youth, none of them do it. they may have tried it but otherwise i dont see a link.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

y'all know this started as a joke on the Coltrane Influence on SY thread right?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous- when something comes from your weed addled mind, I can't tell the difference between things that are jokes and things that are serious at times.



Part of why we love you.

[Protectmeyou]

the sticker on the bass:

 

[Kallisti23chaos]

everyone has their own vices in life

[pbradley]

^ usually the rationalization of the viceful


But raging the town Scareface-style with Thurston would be a blast.

[Kallisti23chaos]

Originally Posted by pbradley

^ usually the rationalization of the viceful


But raging the town Scareface-style with Thurston would be a blast.

absolutely

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by greedrex

i tried cocaine a few times.
and each time was crazy excellent.....
i think it also has to do with yr personal state of mind when you take some.
If you feel ok, you'll feel even better.
If you feel bad, it might lead you to negative situations.

i disagree, i don't think it alters your mood significantly, i think it's more to do with personality types, the people i know who really like coke tend to share certain personality traits.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

the people i know who really like coke tend to share certain personality traits.

Uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

Lack of involvement with the father
Or over-involvement with the mother
Can result in lack of ability
To relate to sexual peers

And in homosexual leanings
Narcissism, transsexuality --
Girls from the waist up
Men from the waist down --
Attempts to be your own love object
Reconcile your parents to you
By becoming both at once

Even Marilyn Monroe was a man
But this tends to get over looked
By our mother-fixated
Overweight, sexist media

So, uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

If you give in to them
Every time they cry
They will become little tyrants
But they won't remember why
Then when they are thwarted
By people in later life
They will become psychotic
And they won't make an ideal husband or wife

The spoiled baby grows into
The escapist teenager who's
The adult alchoholic who's
The middle-aged suicide

OI!
So

Uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

[ihateyouth]

spare some, you nazi!

[The Soup Nazi]

In dreams I walk with you
In dreams I talk to you
In dreams you’re mine, all of the time we’re together
In dreams, in dreams

[ihateyouth]

you know instead of pointing out the obvious we should make a list of cocaine-inspired songs by sonic youth!

[greedrex]

 

[ihateyouth]

 

pacino's ass.