[Daddylikes]

I've been to Virginia Tech's campus.

Twice.

Both times to Burrus Auditorium.

The first to see "Medeski, Martin and Wood" play Avant-Garde style funk jazz.

The second to see the incomperable "Bob Dylan" play "Desolation Row".

If you knew how shitty these shootings made me feel...you'd want to hug me. Fucking hell. I can't even blame the poor kid. Fuck this world. Fuck the thugs that don't even care about a fucking human life. Fuck that kid, but at the same time I hug that kid.

Fuck' hell. Fuck' hell. Fuck' hell.

That's all I have to fucking say. I fucking hate this shit.

Thanks for fucking nothing,
matt

[Norma J]

I don't feel sympathetic for the martyr - he was a thug too - he was just a gun wielding thug. He got picked on - he's not the first and he won't be the last. Did he kill only the people who gave him shit? Or did he take it out on innocent bystanders who could have just aswell been the victims of harrassment too? There is dickheads in the world - the answer isn't to go and shoot at anyone in sight. He was a casualty of himself because he fell victim to the old cliched belief that two wrongs make a right. 'I got picked on so why not pick on others?'

[sonicl]

The fact that the guy has taken the time to record a video in between his first killings and the second batch indicates that he was aiming for some sort of infamy and notoriety, that his name would be on peoples' lips forevermore. And while his name probably won't, his act almost certainly will. It's bizzare the way that murderers seem to attain celebrity status these days, don't you think?

[Norma J]

I saw the footage of the guy and his inane home video, just a few minutes ago on the news. What a fucking fool. It said he admired the two kids responsible for the Columbine incident. Which goes back to what I said earlier in this thread: The media go crazy and it's on every news break around the world, it's crazy. That's exactly why these people do it -- they want to be made martyrs...
If this guy knew he wasn't going to get any reaction or attention, would he have done it?

The answer is clearly 'no'.

And it's going to keep happening because the media thrive on this shit. And there will always be kids in the world who think they're the only ones who feel like shit.

[ALIEN ANAL]

theres footage? where can i see it?

[Tokolosh]

After reading all these posts, I ask myself, what could have been done to prevent this incident from happening. Not much. We all want to point the finger at someone for the premeditated actions the killer took. There are many factors involved in a case of this nature. We could blame his family for being disfunctional, the teachers or school principal for not being able to anticipate what he would do next, his psychologist, for not keeping him under strict observation, the gun dealer, the columbine shootings, video games, bulling, you name it. The truth of the matter is that noone could have imagined that it would turn out the way it did, till it actually happened. Afterthefact makes a good point. Putting the killer in the spotlight through media coverage, only gives the next one, who's still out there, a good reason to carry out the same type of murders, so that he/she can go down in history. We all have ideas of how this could have been prevented, but the fact is, it wasn't.

I'm afraid to say that it's inevitable that someone will eventually be punished for this,
when infact the killer himself was responsible for the actions he took.

EDIT: Have you guys noticed how the coverage of this dreadful news overshadows the 160 deaths that took place in Iraq yesterday?
How convenient.

[sonicl]

Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL

theres footage? where can i see it?

Get a life.

[ALIEN ANAL]

get a life? are you joking? your too sensative grow up

[sonicl]

There are times in life when sensitivity is the right way to go. When you grow up, you may understand that, but as it is you seem to be stuck in some pathetic teenage world where killings and killers are cool. You're nineteen aren't you? You act like a fucking twelve year old sometimes.

[ALIEN ANAL]

because i asked to see footage of the guy talking to a camera, your a fucking idiot.

[sonicl]

Well that put me in my place, didn't it.

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by pantophobia

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...bc.msn.com/&fg=

Cho Seung-Hui sent a collection of videos to NBC, apparently mailed during the two hour lull between the shootings, the link above is to the msnbc news video feed, and has the video itself

link to the guy's vids i did not watch.

[Washing Machine]

You know when some threads are just too long to read...

[ALIEN ANAL]

Originally Posted by nicfit

link to the guy's vids i did not watch.

yeh id becareful, you might be harrased for doing so

[afterthefact]

should've used this:

 

[tesla69]

[quote=atari 2600]I am beginning to wonder whether or not it's worth debating with you. [/quote=atari 2600]

C'mon you know you love it

<<Originally Posted by tesla69 Thats assinine. It's not like they arrested the guy that <<morning and then gave him back his gun and said have a nice day.
[quote=atari 2600]All I did was factually recount that the police spent too much critical time intwerviewing an alleged acquaintance <SNIP> I call this negligence, at least on some level, sorry.[/quote=atari 2600]
I still think calling that negligence – and my interpretation is that you assert this rises to the level of criminal negligence - is silly. However, what *might* be considered negligent as I and all of America learned last night on the news is that the killer had been admitted to a mental health facility recently. One might argue he was released too early.
One thing this thread is missing is if colleges started restricting anyone who might potentially be violently mentally ill half the campus would vanish and that wouldn’t be such a big deal except that if yr locked up in the loony bin you aren’t paying tuition. Believe me, colleges think about that, they have to.
<<Originally Posted by tesla69 99% of the creative types I knew in the hardcore or <<industrial noise scenes could be classified as loonies if their creative work is a <<criteria for sanity.
[quote=atari 2600]Stop worrying and being paranoid for your own sake for a second, will ya? [/quote=atari 2600]
Gee you sure do project your personal vendetta here atari2600, that sentence expresses my concern about OTHER PEOPLE, and yer ignorant mate, ask Mike Diana what he thinks about this and the time he spent in jail for his drawings.
I watched the NBC broadcast last night and had a couple thoughts. 1. we are all this guy. We’re all a few thoughts away from going postal. The more you deny that the more likely it is true. 2. Drugs: imagine the national freakout of he had been on meth. But we barely hear a whisper if he was on prozac or not. THIS IS THE #1 QUESTION WAS HE ON DRUGS! (And here atari2600 your liability comes in – if he was on prozac, which has a history of producing homicidal madness). NBC wouldn't even mention it last night.

Security is to the Information Age as the automobile was to the Industrial Age. A mammoth and necessary waste of resources.

[screamingskull]

did you hear they found a female student Virginia Tech who was a student at Columbine High school when the massacre happened there in 1999.

FUCKING MAD

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

did you hear they found a female student Virginia Tech who was a student at Columbine High school when the massacre happened there in 1999.

FUCKING MAD

and the murdered professor who had been a concentration camp internee...

weird, his older sister is a spook
Sun-Kyung Cho, the shooter's older sister, is listed in the State Department directory as a personnel assistant at the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, but sources say she reports to McNeil Technologies, which is one of the many administrative/managerial support contractors used for Iraq reconstruction management projects.

[tesla69]

Another thing I find disturbing is the censorship by police. They determine what material gets released. As has been shown time and again the police cannot be trusted with information (i.e., editing police videos so the illegal stuff is cut out). There is no alleged national security involved here, unlike the FBI refusing to release 9/11 videos etc. We see how the cops covered up Columbine (were half the kids there killed by other cops?) - what about all the eyewitness reports of additional killers they seemingly ignored?

[Rob Instigator]

I have a friend who, on his way to a pub here to get a drink, managed to stop a rape and hold the fucker until police arrived because of his concealed handgun and his concealed handgun permit.

guns for everyone. they are used for KILLING. human sometimes need to KILL.