[jennthebenn]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vte...ing/index.html

on a personal note, my nephew just got accepted to this school.

[jennthebenn]

now reporting at least 22 dead. crazed.

[jon boy]

another reason why guns should be illegal.

[Rob Instigator]

This was crazy to read about. they say 22 dead and over 20 more injured. Insane. The shooter is dead, according to police.
The problem in all this is not guns or weapons or firearms per se, but the inherent lack of respect and care and sense of the worth of human life. People that do this are socipaths. They do not feel guilt, for whatever reason, for their actions,a nd they do not feel remorse at killing an innocent human. Life means nothing to them.
we, the USA, are breeding 90% of the world's sociopaths. something in our culture breeds this. We have more serial killers, mass murderes, etc than the rest of the world put together.

what a horrible way to start the school day. 7:15 AM.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

The problem in all this is not guns or weapons or firearms per se, but the inherent lack of respect and care and sense of the worth of human life.

I agree.

if they were to actually outlaw guns, only the people that fully intend to break the law will be able to get them. getting a stolen gun takes no time at all if you know the right (wrong) people.

[jon boy]

to me it seems a pretty pointless argument. ban sociopaths, people will get them anyway etc.

true people will be able to get them i not saying they wont but what about kids finding there parents guns etc.

i remember when hurricane katrina happened and people were shooting back then.

[jon boy]

what is americas fascination with guns?

that is just a question not an accusation as some will have it.

[ALIEN ANAL]

is their footage of this? like in school cams?

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

guns should totally remain completely legal.

if someone wnts to kill someone it can still be easily done without a gun......

and as far as accidental shooting...oh well...people need to learn how to fucking be careful and accept the consequences that can, sometimes, come with carrying a gun (or any weopon).

29 people? Surely the only thing that can carry out an attack of this nature is a gun. Apparently he lined them up in a classroom and shot them excecution style, surely anything that makes carrying out something like this easier is indefensible.

[screamingskull]

21 dead, 22 being treated in hospital, it happened on two different dorms. Fucking Crazy,

CNN are calling it the deadliest school shooting in american history!

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

true...yes.

but what are we to do about it?

OUTLAW GUNS FFS!
I know what you mean though, theres not much chance it would ever happen. This whole "guns dont kill people, people do" thing is just ridiculous. Of course people kill people, but people kill MORE people MORE easily with a gun. Its all about the distancing effect a gun has, its a million times easier to shoot someone in the head than beat them to death or stab them, not just physically but psychologically.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

i am sympathetic towards this situation....so dont think that im not.

yeah. Horrible stuff. I have a freind at uni in America now and its just scary.

[screamingskull]

(CNN) -- A lone gunman is dead after police said he killed at least 21 people Monday during twin shootings on the Virginia Tech campus -- the worst school shooting incident in U.S. history.

"Some victims were shot in a classroom," university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said during a news conference in Blacksburg.

Police believe there was only one gunman, Flinchum said.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified." (Map of Blacksburg)

The shootings mark the deadliest school shooting incident in U.S. history, topping attacks at Columbine High School in 1999 and at the University of Texas in 1966.

The Associated Press quoted officials saying more than 20 people were wounded. A hospital spokeswoman told AP that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

Sharon Honaker at the Carilion New River Valley Medical Center in nearby Christiansburg, Virginia, told CNN that four patients had been transported there, one in critical condition.

One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, the engineering science and mechanics building, resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported. (Watch police, ambulances hustle to the scene )

The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a four-story coed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.

Amie Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported "mass chaos."

The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.

Kristyn Heiser said she was in class about 9:30 a.m. when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.

"We were like, 'What's going on?' Because this definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen. It's pretty boring here," said Heiser during a phone interview as she sat on her classroom floor.

Student reports 'mayhem'

Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

"They told us to get out of there so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could," he said.

Waldron described the scene on campus as "mayhem." (Watch a student's recording of police responding to loud bangs )

"It was kind of scary," he said. "These two kids I guess had panicked and jumped out of the top-story window and the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape just lying on the ground."

Madison Van Duyne said she and her classmates in a media writing class were on "lockdown" in their classrooms. They were huddled in the middle of the classroom, writing stories about the shootings and posting them online.

The university is updating its more than 26,000 students through e-mails, and an Internet webcam is broadcasting live pictures of the campus.

The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.

Last August, the first day of classes was cut short by a manhunt after an escaped prisoner was accused of killing a security guard at a Blacksburg hospital and a sheriff's deputy.

After the Monday shootings, students were instructed to stay indoors and away from windows, police at the university said. (Watch the police chief explain where bodies were found )

"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where they are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus," a statement on the university Web site said.

Before Monday, the deadliest school shootings came in 1966 and 1999.

In the former, Charles Joseph Whitman, a 25-year-old ex-Marine, killed 13 people on the University of Texas campus. He was killed by police.

In 1999, 17-year-old Dylan Klebold and 18-year-old Eric Harris -- armed with guns and pipe bombs -- killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves.

[ALIEN ANAL]

32 dead it says here

[screamingskull]

no, its 21, CNN wouldn't get it that wrong.

[SynthethicalY]

This is sad.

[screamingskull]

 

The dorm where it happened, it looks fucking creepy in the picture already.

[cuetzpalin]

yeah it's really sad.. why do these disasters happen so often in the US??

[ALIEN ANAL]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

no, its 21, CNN wouldn't get it that wrong.

just saying what it says on my screen

[Rob Instigator]

25 dead now