[cars_willkillyou]

i live by the advice given. Pot and alcohol. Sometimes shrooms and/or acid...but only under the right circumstances. I have done quite a few prescriptions, but each one once or twice. I have never done a pill more than 5 times (at least for recreation)

Originally Posted by Dead-Air

Reed didn't really do a lot of heroin despite writing songs about it in the early days of the Velvets. His thing for years on end was shooting speed. Actually harder to imagine he's still alive after doing that.

I think speed ruined his creativity because his jaws apparently are paralysed by it, let alone his brain.

There's no point in saying any drugs (including alcohol) are better than others. If you are not of a certain mindset or constitution you are bound to fuck up, which is the case for 90% of people. I think they are also ultimately detrimental to one's creativity, if turned into a lifestyle. There are people who can still survive regular use unscathed, but those are few and far inbetween if you compare them to all the people who destroy themselves, so it's like playing a game of russian roulette.

[ZEROpumpkins]

I think bands like Pink Floyd were able to use their drug use to make great music, only to have it ruin them later.

[Youth_Against_Facism]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

I think bands like Pink Floyd were able to use their drug use to make great music, only to have it ruin them later.

Yes exactly. Killed bands like Nirvana and Alice in Chains.

[DeadDiscoDildo]

I'm starting to think that drug use shouldn't be a lifestyle, even in moderation...but a necessary phase.

[ZEROpumpkins]

It can be occasional, if you ask me. I think it can be healthy to gain different perspectives on life through weed.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

I think it can be healthy to gain different perspectives on life through weed.

I'm fairly confident this is the sort of bullshit that weed smokers spout. Weed is fucking awful. It's a laugh, but there's no way it's condusive to anything other than talking complete shite. As 'marras says, it's alright for some people, but they're very rare.

[barnaclelapse]

Yeah, sorry about your friend, and I can only say that as someone who's lost a few friends to drugs and had a pretty nice speed addiction going myself for a while as well.

And, I too, would like this this thing called "fuck"...where can I pick some up?

[greedrex]

i fuck when i want, thank you.

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

I hope you're sarcastic. You guys are the biggest bunch of druggos.

Indeed I am a fiend. That only means that I've had experience poisoning my body with numerous chemicals and have long-lasting effects I can warn other people about. Really, it's not brain science. If a drug is going to eat up your brain and your wallet, experiment with caution.

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

I think speed ruined his creativity because his jaws apparently are paralysed by it, let alone his brain.

I was unaware of this. I know a couple of tweakers who's jaws are paralyzed too. It's really sad. Speed and coke deplete your pleasure receptors because there's no need for all of them when you're all whacked out. The pleasure receptors never come back and it's hard for your brain to compensate for the lack of receptors with more pleasure chemicals.

[cars_willkillyou]

see, for the most part drugs are what makes bands fantastic. Its when they get off the drugs that they really start to suck (or die)

[Youth_Against_Facism]

“M’kay, kids, you shouldn’t do drugs, m’kay, drugs are bad. You see, I was at the bottom of the barrel, I was a wreck. Why, I didn’t even care about money. I was wasting my life… You boys need to listen up, m’kay, what I’m talking about might save your life some day… Drugs are bad. You shouldn’t do drugs. If you do them, you’re bad, because drugs are bad. It’s a bad thing to do drugs, so don’t be bad by doing drugs, m’kay, that’d be bad”

[ZEROpumpkins]

Originally Posted by Youth_Against_Facism

“M’kay, kids, you shouldn’t do drugs, m’kay, drugs are bad. You see, I was at the bottom of the barrel, I was a wreck. Why, I didn’t even care about money. I was wasting my life… You boys need to listen up, m’kay, what I’m talking about might save your life some day… Drugs are bad. You shouldn’t do drugs. If you do them, you’re bad, because drugs are bad. It’s a bad thing to do drugs, so don’t be bad by doing drugs, m’kay, that’d be bad”

Hahahahahaha

[Beautiful Plateau]

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip

Makes me wonder if there are any junky success stories...

(not people who recovered, people who were able to do it without destroying their lives)

Don't know any of them personally, but I'm sure there are people like that?
Were Iggy Pop, David Bowie and Kim Deal not heroin users in the past?
Did they destroy their lives when they did?
enlighten me, please

edit: sorry to hear about your friend, DeadDiscoDildo. I will pray for his soul.

[Magic Wheel Memory]

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo

It's just some bad shit. I just needed to vent, sorry to drop this here, to you guys, but thanks for being so kind about it. And not saying, "duh", don't do that shit.

There's nothing "duh" about it. It needs to be said more often than it is. Be strong, bro.

[Magic Wheel Memory]

Originally Posted by Beautiful Plateau

Don't know any of them personally, but I'm sure there are people like that?
Were Iggy Pop, David Bowie and Kim Deal not heroin users in the past?
Did they destroy their lives when they did?
enlighten me, please

edit: sorry to hear about your friend, DeadDiscoDildo. I will pray for his soul.

Certainly there are former users who didn't destroy their lives. But I think a more important question is how many former users would honestly recommend it to others? How many of them look back and say "Yeah, that was a great idea?"

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Youth_Against_Facism

Yes exactly. Killed bands like ... Alice in Chains.

Every cloud ..., as they say.

[Rob Instigator]

Daaaaammmnnnnnn

[Rob Instigator]

I would have much rather had heroin kill stone temple pilots, instead of alice in chains. I car3ed nothing when cocaine killed Blind Lemon