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Old 10.10.2007, 12:47 PM   #1
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"Originality is a device that untalented people use to impress other untalented people..."

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Old 10.10.2007, 12:52 PM   #2
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untalented people take talented peoples originalty to impress other untalented people
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Old 10.10.2007, 01:00 PM   #3
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the meaning of the quote is that its my new msn pm
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Old 10.10.2007, 01:09 PM   #4
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I find it much more fun to rip-off things that other people have done, mold them to my own use and pretend (with a straight face) that I came up with the idea altogether.

hell, even most of my posts are recycles.
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Old 10.10.2007, 03:18 PM   #5
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I find it much more fun to rip-off things that other people have done, mold them to my own use and pretend (with a straight face) that I came up with the idea altogether.

hell, even most of my posts are recycles.
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Old 10.10.2007, 03:34 PM   #6
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Creativity is about hiding your souces. Something liek taht, it's an Einstien quote.
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Old 10.10.2007, 03:55 PM   #7
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Originality? Does it even exist anymore?
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Old 10.10.2007, 04:03 PM   #8
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If all things have origins, then everyone is untalented.
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Old 10.10.2007, 04:15 PM   #9
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originality exists.
nothing is absolute however, so absolute originality does not exist.
original thought willl exist as long as there are humans to think.

here is an original sentence.

"I dropped the crust from my eyelashes into my squeezed-open piss-hole, thereby savoring the most exquisite pain of the week."

originality is EASY. what is not easy is worthwhile originality.
Look at carrot Top. he is an "original" creation, but he most definitely sucks.
 


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Old 10.10.2007, 04:25 PM   #10
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The 'original' very quickly become the soporific, the cliched. The innovative is a good category, 'good' is both best and least useful.

Having eschewed 'originality' in the general use (it doesn't describe anything, neither itself nor its object), I'm still fascinated with how some things manage to be unlike other things.

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Old 10.10.2007, 04:33 PM   #11
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Here is another original sentence, "Your precious star gem, it has been dislodged from your almighty cleavage."
Absolute originality definately can exist, e.g., an absolute original painting of a flock of sheep.
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Old 10.10.2007, 04:40 PM   #12
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green mind, there are tons of paintings of sheep.

that negates any true originality. very few artists achieve such levels.

that's why we love dali, and Duchamp and Pollock etc etc
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Old 10.10.2007, 04:54 PM   #13
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yeah, I see your point man, but absolutes do exist and I believe absolute originality can exist.
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Old 10.10.2007, 04:55 PM   #14
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I think absolutes are ideals, to be strived for, but in our imperfect universe, never to eb truly reached.
all human endeavor is built upon the shoulders of those that came before us.
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Old 10.10.2007, 05:02 PM   #15
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I like originality and (often, though not always) enjoy it very much when I see it, but overall I would say I am more into interesting amalgamations and oblique references (these things make landmarks out of shared tastes and experiences) and sincerity coupled with impeccable execution of one's chosen style.
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Old 10.10.2007, 06:41 PM   #16
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Savage said it best.
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Old 10.10.2007, 07:55 PM   #17
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Absolutes are fleeting at best, but paradoxically, originality as an ideal unto itself can exist. As Robby-Trip-Instigator mentioned, we love people like Dali and Duchamp, because they embody the spirit of originality; they are; if you like; the mortal personifications of an immortal ideal. Their work transcends the boundaries of what originality is defined by and become the paragon of absoluteness. So, Green-Mind and Robo Tripper, you guys are both right, somewhat. Just my opinion...
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Old 10.10.2007, 09:57 PM   #18
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Lots of "talented" people who play in bands are interested in playing music for a living. Thus, they must create songs that will appeal to a huge cross-section of people all over the world. But creative people, talented or not "technically" talented (again, this sparks anoter debate: what exactly is "talent"? I think it's a mix of technicality AND originality, but..) with self-respect issues can't do that -- don't WANT to do that. There's a reason I'm not a huge rock and roll star and lots of forward-thinking bands aren't either. I'm sure there's plenty of technically talented people who have tons of good ideas -- they just don't use them because they'd rather appeal to the masses. Obvious but true.

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Old 10.10.2007, 09:58 PM   #19
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yes you did.
And I agree.
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Old 10.15.2007, 12:04 AM   #20
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