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Old 05.09.2007, 10:30 AM   #1
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Im lookng for a movie, not sure what kind. (not comedy) something great, but not over-rated. Any ideas.
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Old 05.09.2007, 10:33 AM   #2
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Old 05.09.2007, 10:40 AM   #3
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a little of everything.
cant really describe what im looking for.
sort of the fight club style of film
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Old 05.09.2007, 10:40 AM   #4
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Goodfellas
The Good the bad and the ugly
For a few dollars more

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A Great film; Why is this not out on DVD?, December 8, 2000
Reviewer:TUCO HUMILITY "BABYLON13" (Los Angeles, CA) - See all my reviewsThis film was the motion picture debuts of Martin Sheen (who had only acted in soaps previously), Tony Musante (later of TV's Toma, and Dario Argento films) and Donna Mills (later of Knots Landing). It's one of the classic American films of the late `60s (although not generally recognized at such by `mainstream' critics). It goes for a level of realism that was completely non-existent, or at most melodramatic and laughable in most Hollywood films of the period. And best of all, it's one of those films that provokes endless discussions.

No---there are no Bruce Lees, Charlie's Angels, Steven Seagals, Schwarzeneggers, or Clint Eastwoods with .357 magnums on this ride. Nor is there Bernard Goetz, the subway vigilante. There are two soldiers though, just to prove to the audience how easily two `fighting men' can also be manipulated by the divisive forces paralyzing the other passengers. What would YOU do, as a respectable citizen, if you were locked in a subway train with two drunken hoods determined to find a way to insult and humiliate you, and who could possibly stab you if you tried anything? Would you consider it a duty to put yourself on the line for the others or would you wait until the threat came directly knocking? Most people find it easy to pay lip service to heroism when they see this film: how they wouldn't stand for any of the BS dished out by the two punks before reacting, blah, blah, blah... Still, the overwhelming likelihood is that, unprepared, most `regular people' would think twice before going head to head with a couple of drunken psychos and would probably react much the same as the people in this film. In other words, unless they were backed up by at least one other person, they would refuse to stand up to the two thugs and risk getting a shank in the gut. And that's what this film exposes in the end: the alienation of people that serves to defeat them.
Musante delivers one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema. In his thick New York accent, thicker sideburns and crazy face with two moles, he crafts an urban psychopath who is truly menacing because of his `common' qualities; people like him are definitely NOT a rarity and especially not so in New York City! Sheen is also quite electrifying, although a little too boyish looking to be truly menacing. You can understand Ed McMahon and the homosexual young man being afraid of these guys; but why would two soldiers, a big and very angry black man, a greaser-gang-member type and a semi-tough former-boozer? Because united these two thugs represent power while divided and apathetic the passengers all represent individuals and thus, relative weakness. Even the two soldiers, Beau Bridges and his friend are divided, Beau wanting to do something but his friend (with the `big lawyer ambitions') determined to stay out of trouble (and in the end being the only one on the train who isn't directly humiliated).
Incredible as it may seem, given the level of realism achieved in "The Incident," because of the negative-publicity the film's subject was likely to generate, the filmmakers were not allowed to shoot on New York subways and had to build an exact replica of a subway car on a New York soundstage. The car was mounted on ball bearings to allow tilting and shaking, and rear projection was used for the window back grounds. Sections of the car were made removable to allow mounting of the camera outside the car, but this option was never used, Peerce and his DP Hirschfeld deciding to maintain a claustrophobic feel by always shooting inside the subway from the point of view of one of the passengers. Not allowed permission even to shoot backgrounds, the cinematographer, Gerald Hirschfeld, smuggled out the shots he needed, using only available light, with a hand-held Arriflex camera hidden in a cardboard carton pointed out of the windows as he traveled on subways for 4 days. To mask the grainy quality of the backgrounds the windows of the car were made as dirty as possible in the film, which, this being a New York subway, further added to the film's realism!
The film had to stop production after 4 days when the original financial backers pulled out. But the cast and crew were so dedicated to this project that they stuck around without pay for two and a half weeks, while Peerce armed with only 4 days of dailies made the studio rounds. Luckily Richard and Daryl Zanuck were very impressed at the possibilities of promotion the film offered and agreed to provide the funding necessary to complete the project. ."The Incident" is a great film because, even if somewhat campy in parts, it lays bare the everpresent hypocrisy, alienation, and supressed rage characteristic of American life (viewers instantly recognize this to their profound discomfort and usually seek to repress and deny it) by the device of having a whole cross-section of people ruthlessly interrogated and humiliated by two drunken punks out for `kicks.' The result becomes much more than just horrifying--provided you can overlook certain minor faults (like you would those of Sam Fuller's best films), it reaches the level of a true urban tragedy a la Taxi Driver.
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"An electric directorial debut (seven years in the making) by New York artist/musician/model/actor Vincent Gallo. He portrays troubled Billy Brown, who has just been let out of jail on a cold and miserable day. Before returning home to visit his parents and kill the football star who missed the field goal that sent him there in the first place (in order to repay a debt that he didn't have the money to extinguish), he kidnaps a bored girl from her dancing class (Christina Ricci) and makes her pretend that she is his wife. Though she doesn't seem to object to the abduction, Billy is emotional and angry but sensitive. As the trip progresses--including an explosive visit to his childhood homein Buffalo, where his indifferent parents (Ben Gazzara and football obsessed Angelica Huston) still reside--the two continue to bicker like a real couple but begin to form a genuine bond. BUFFALO '66 combines the experimental techniques of the French New Wave and the realistic grit of seventies filmmakers such as John Cassavetes, resulting in an inventive, original and touching love story."
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i haven't posted anything seriously yet because the request for recommendation seems to me akin to throwing dice. "something great but not overrated"---
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sheriff, what the fuck do you mean by "great"? godard great or sam fuller great? john waters great or antonioni great?

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A Great film; Why is this not out on DVD?, December 8, 2000
Reviewer:TUCO HUMILITY "BABYLON13" (Los Angeles, CA) - See all my reviewsThis film was the motion picture debuts of Martin Sheen (who had only acted in soaps previously), Tony Musante (later of TV's Toma, and Dario Argento films) and Donna Mills (later of Knots Landing). It's one of the classic American films of the late `60s (although not generally recognized at such by `mainstream' critics). It goes for a level of realism that was completely non-existent, or at most melodramatic and laughable in most Hollywood films of the period. And best of all, it's one of those films that provokes endless discussions.

No---there are no Bruce Lees, Charlie's Angels, Steven Seagals, Schwarzeneggers, or Clint Eastwoods with .357 magnums on this ride. Nor is there Bernard Goetz, the subway vigilante. There are two soldiers though, just to prove to the audience how easily two `fighting men' can also be manipulated by the divisive forces paralyzing the other passengers. What would YOU do, as a respectable citizen, if you were locked in a subway train with two drunken hoods determined to find a way to insult and humiliate you, and who could possibly stab you if you tried anything? Would you consider it a duty to put yourself on the line for the others or would you wait until the threat came directly knocking? Most people find it easy to pay lip service to heroism when they see this film: how they wouldn't stand for any of the BS dished out by the two punks before reacting, blah, blah, blah... Still, the overwhelming likelihood is that, unprepared, most `regular people' would think twice before going head to head with a couple of drunken psychos and would probably react much the same as the people in this film. In other words, unless they were backed up by at least one other person, they would refuse to stand up to the two thugs and risk getting a shank in the gut. And that's what this film exposes in the end: the alienation of people that serves to defeat them.
Musante delivers one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema. In his thick New York accent, thicker sideburns and crazy face with two moles, he crafts an urban psychopath who is truly menacing because of his `common' qualities; people like him are definitely NOT a rarity and especially not so in New York City! Sheen is also quite electrifying, although a little too boyish looking to be truly menacing. You can understand Ed McMahon and the homosexual young man being afraid of these guys; but why would two soldiers, a big and very angry black man, a greaser-gang-member type and a semi-tough former-boozer? Because united these two thugs represent power while divided and apathetic the passengers all represent individuals and thus, relative weakness. Even the two soldiers, Beau Bridges and his friend are divided, Beau wanting to do something but his friend (with the `big lawyer ambitions') determined to stay out of trouble (and in the end being the only one on the train who isn't directly humiliated).
Incredible as it may seem, given the level of realism achieved in "The Incident," because of the negative-publicity the film's subject was likely to generate, the filmmakers were not allowed to shoot on New York subways and had to build an exact replica of a subway car on a New York soundstage. The car was mounted on ball bearings to allow tilting and shaking, and rear projection was used for the window back grounds. Sections of the car were made removable to allow mounting of the camera outside the car, but this option was never used, Peerce and his DP Hirschfeld deciding to maintain a claustrophobic feel by always shooting inside the subway from the point of view of one of the passengers. Not allowed permission even to shoot backgrounds, the cinematographer, Gerald Hirschfeld, smuggled out the shots he needed, using only available light, with a hand-held Arriflex camera hidden in a cardboard carton pointed out of the windows as he traveled on subways for 4 days. To mask the grainy quality of the backgrounds the windows of the car were made as dirty as possible in the film, which, this being a New York subway, further added to the film's realism!
The film had to stop production after 4 days when the original financial backers pulled out. But the cast and crew were so dedicated to this project that they stuck around without pay for two and a half weeks, while Peerce armed with only 4 days of dailies made the studio rounds. Luckily Richard and Daryl Zanuck were very impressed at the possibilities of promotion the film offered and agreed to provide the funding necessary to complete the project. ."The Incident" is a great film because, even if somewhat campy in parts, it lays bare the everpresent hypocrisy, alienation, and supressed rage characteristic of American life (viewers instantly recognize this to their profound discomfort and usually seek to repress and deny it) by the device of having a whole cross-section of people ruthlessly interrogated and humiliated by two drunken punks out for `kicks.' The result becomes much more than just horrifying--provided you can overlook certain minor faults (like you would those of Sam Fuller's best films), it reaches the level of a true urban tragedy a la Taxi Driver.
http://www.amazon.com/Incident-Victo.../dp/6301551990

a great small movie that many have missed...
there's just a minute or so of all the passengers' lives shown before they get on the subway car where the rest of the whole movie takes place, so it's like a play in that respect. the passengers unwittingly meet up with a couple of small-time thugs. Tony Musante, in a bravura performance, impishly terrorizes everyone with a young Martin Sheen in tow. spoiler: a young beau bridges helps to save the day. The movie addresses the civil rights and racial issues of the time in alarming, confrontational ways. It's in black & white and came out in '67. This is the real Summer of Love.
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ahhh, chopper.. wasn't too sure about that one. the acting was pretty good, but points of the film didn't go anywhere.. actually, most of the film. seemed silly.

anywho... i'll go ahead and suggest something else.. pinnochio 964.
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A Great film; Why is this not out on DVD?, December 8, 2000
Reviewer:TUCO HUMILITY "BABYLON13" (Los Angeles, CA) - See all my reviewsThis film was the motion picture debuts of Martin Sheen (who had only acted in soaps previously), Tony Musante (later of TV's Toma, and Dario Argento films) and Donna Mills (later of Knots Landing). It's one of the classic American films of the late `60s (although not generally recognized at such by `mainstream' critics). It goes for a level of realism that was completely non-existent, or at most melodramatic and laughable in most Hollywood films of the period. And best of all, it's one of those films that provokes endless discussions.

No---there are no Bruce Lees, Charlie's Angels, Steven Seagals, Schwarzeneggers, or Clint Eastwoods with .357 magnums on this ride. Nor is there Bernard Goetz, the subway vigilante. There are two soldiers though, just to prove to the audience how easily two `fighting men' can also be manipulated by the divisive forces paralyzing the other passengers. What would YOU do, as a respectable citizen, if you were locked in a subway train with two drunken hoods determined to find a way to insult and humiliate you, and who could possibly stab you if you tried anything? Would you consider it a duty to put yourself on the line for the others or would you wait until the threat came directly knocking? Most people find it easy to pay lip service to heroism when they see this film: how they wouldn't stand for any of the BS dished out by the two punks before reacting, blah, blah, blah... Still, the overwhelming likelihood is that, unprepared, most `regular people' would think twice before going head to head with a couple of drunken psychos and would probably react much the same as the people in this film. In other words, unless they were backed up by at least one other person, they would refuse to stand up to the two thugs and risk getting a shank in the gut. And that's what this film exposes in the end: the alienation of people that serves to defeat them.
Musante delivers one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema. In his thick New York accent, thicker sideburns and crazy face with two moles, he crafts an urban psychopath who is truly menacing because of his `common' qualities; people like him are definitely NOT a rarity and especially not so in New York City! Sheen is also quite electrifying, although a little too boyish looking to be truly menacing. You can understand Ed McMahon and the homosexual young man being afraid of these guys; but why would two soldiers, a big and very angry black man, a greaser-gang-member type and a semi-tough former-boozer? Because united these two thugs represent power while divided and apathetic the passengers all represent individuals and thus, relative weakness. Even the two soldiers, Beau Bridges and his friend are divided, Beau wanting to do something but his friend (with the `big lawyer ambitions') determined to stay out of trouble (and in the end being the only one on the train who isn't directly humiliated).
Incredible as it may seem, given the level of realism achieved in "The Incident," because of the negative-publicity the film's subject was likely to generate, the filmmakers were not allowed to shoot on New York subways and had to build an exact replica of a subway car on a New York soundstage. The car was mounted on ball bearings to allow tilting and shaking, and rear projection was used for the window back grounds. Sections of the car were made removable to allow mounting of the camera outside the car, but this option was never used, Peerce and his DP Hirschfeld deciding to maintain a claustrophobic feel by always shooting inside the subway from the point of view of one of the passengers. Not allowed permission even to shoot backgrounds, the cinematographer, Gerald Hirschfeld, smuggled out the shots he needed, using only available light, with a hand-held Arriflex camera hidden in a cardboard carton pointed out of the windows as he traveled on subways for 4 days. To mask the grainy quality of the backgrounds the windows of the car were made as dirty as possible in the film, which, this being a New York subway, further added to the film's realism!
The film had to stop production after 4 days when the original financial backers pulled out. But the cast and crew were so dedicated to this project that they stuck around without pay for two and a half weeks, while Peerce armed with only 4 days of dailies made the studio rounds. Luckily Richard and Daryl Zanuck were very impressed at the possibilities of promotion the film offered and agreed to provide the funding necessary to complete the project. ."The Incident" is a great film because, even if somewhat campy in parts, it lays bare the everpresent hypocrisy, alienation, and supressed rage characteristic of American life (viewers instantly recognize this to their profound discomfort and usually seek to repress and deny it) by the device of having a whole cross-section of people ruthlessly interrogated and humiliated by two drunken punks out for `kicks.' The result becomes much more than just horrifying--provided you can overlook certain minor faults (like you would those of Sam Fuller's best films), it reaches the level of a true urban tragedy a la Taxi Driver.
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Thanks porky, might see this.
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Thanks porky, might see this.
If you can get you hands on it, please do. It's an incredible movie and the acting is just too good to be true. It's criminal that it is not more readily available. Criminal.
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