[Pookie]

The headline in the Sun this week, reporting on the death of racist comedian Bernard Manning.

Not exactly subtle, but to the point.

[Hip Priest]

It's accurate and straight to the point.

It's a shame Bernard Manning has died without realising ever how offensive he was. Not likeable at all, and I've heard first-hand stories of him off stage which don't help.

Still, he did have one funny joke, and the good taste to support Manchester City, so that's something, and I'm told he did much charity work too.

[sonicl]

Do you two have the same avatar, one pictured from the front, the other from behind? Are you in fact the same person, just looked at from different angles?

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Hip Priest

Still, he did have one funny joke, so that's something.

Do tell!

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by sonicl

Do you two have the same avatar, one pictured from the front, the other from behind? Are you in fact the same person, just looked at from different angles?

Rumbled.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Hip Priest

Still, he did have one funny joke,

which was?

[Hip Priest]

Apparantly he stopped his act and announced to the audience that 'there are a couple of lads in tonight who fought in the Falklands War'. The audience duly broke into jingoistic applause before Bernard said 'they'te great lads, there they are over there - Diego and Carlos'.

That's kind of funny. It kind of takes the piss out of Bernard Manning fans.

[Pookie]

That is quite funny.

[demonrail666]

agreed.

[jon boy]

roy chubby brown next?

[demonrail666]

In a Mexican Stand off with Jim Davidson and Jim Bowen

Poor Glice, I bet that he's not going through a nice day.



Obituary: Bernard Manning

The comedian Bernard Manning was one of Britain's wealthiest comics and, many believed, among the most offensive. But his seemingly blatant racism and controversial language - some of which appears below - remained the subject of some debate until the end.

 

Manning remained loyal to his beloved home city of Manchester

People of Pakistani, Indian or African origin, Jews, the Irish, they were all fair game to him.
But in Bernard Manning's logic, jokes about disabled people, or tampons, were unacceptable.
He was born in 1930 in one of Manchester's poorest areas, Ancoats, and throughout his life never liked being far away from the city.
He left school at 14 and worked briefly in his father's greengrocer's shop before becoming a big-band singer and eventually taking over the Embassy Club in Manchester, where he was the chief performer for 40 years, generating most of his multi-million pound fortune.
Bernard Manning became a household name in the 1970s through Granada TV's The Comedians.
But with the dawn of political correctness, his stand-up routine was considered to be no longer fit for the television schedules.

 

The comic was deemed too risky for TV late in his career


On the northern club circuit, though, he continued to play to packed houses, which, as he claimed, often included people from the ethnic minorities.
Bernard Manning did not endear himself to most people. Journalists, male or female, would be obliged to interview him at his home as the 21-stone comedian sat in his vest and Y-fronts.
They would also have to endure a stream of boasts about his Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit, appearing with Dean Martin in Las Vegas, his Royal Command performance and meeting the Queen.
He also espoused simple values, with family relationships their core.
"I dragged myself up by my bootlaces. I don't drink or smoke, I don't take drugs. I have never been a womaniser. I was brought up right with good parents and I have never been in trouble or harmed no-one. And I love my family."

 

Manning ran the Embassy Club in Manchester


Bereavement was another of the brief list of subjects that Bernard Manning considered inappropriate for humour, especially after the pain it had caused him.
His wife Vera died of a heart attack in 1986 and he then moved back in with his mother. But nine years later, he was devastated by her death and by that of two of his brothers.
He said he never swore in front of his mother: "I would have hated her ever to have heard me curse."
His usual foul language and racist reputation made him a high risk for television.
But it was that reputation that led to a Channel 4 wheeze to take him to Bombay and see how he fared in two engagements there. Badly was the answer.

 

He made his name in the 1970s on TV's The Comedians


On Mrs Merton's television show, Bernard Manning supposedly floored Caroline Aherne's alias by confirming that he was a racist.
At least, that was his version, although most viewers felt he emerged a poor second-best from the confrontation.
During that show, Manning managed to extract several jokes from the fire at his Embassy Club and his subsequent insurance settlement.
But when he wasn't trying to confuse Caroline Aherne, he would deny being a racist: "I tell jokes," said Manning. "You never take a joke seriously."
He was furious when two black waitresses, who won damages from a Derby hotel because it failed to shield them from Manning's invective at a Round Table dinner, accused him of calling them "wogs".
"It's a horrible, insulting word I've never used in my life," he complained, while maintaining that "niggers" and "coons" were historical terms with respectable roots.
'An anachronism'
His detractors were convinced he was a bigot, while his family and friends insisted it was all an act to pull in the punters, that Manning was one of the kindest, most charitable, most loving men you could meet.
And while Manning's routine made little attempt to be topical, he could occasionally hint at subversion.
As when, soon after the Falklands war, he told his audience that two soldiers from the conflict were present.
As the jingoistic cheers rang out, Manning embarrassed the audience by adding: "They're Argentinians." Bernard Manning's biographer Jonathan Margolis concluded that Manning held anachronistic views, just "like most working-class people in their late 60s". But, Margolis suggested, Manning was simply playing on people's own prejudices.

[demonrail666]

Manning was a semi-decent comic whose career was largely kept afloat by those who chose to attack him at every occasion.

[MellySingsDoom]

One of the old school of "I'm not a racialist, but..." comedy, he won't be missed by me. Did anyone see that show of B Manning doing stand-up in India? What a car-crash of a TV programme that was. One thing about Manning though, he at least didn't pretend to be "edgy" or "ironic", unlike the likes of Andrew Dice Clay, or the increasingly-annoying likes of Peter Kay and Ricky Gervais.

demonrail666 - how do you feel about Russell "gor blimey geez, me and my mate Noel Gallagher" Brand being a Hammer's supporter (and going on about it every weekend in the Grauniad)?

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

Peter Kay and Ricky Gervais.

Peter Kay is an annoying cunt and very rarely I find him funny. Gervais is not as annoying but increasingly boring. I don't understand why so many people don't see the dodginess of both David Walliams and Matt Lucas. Russel Brand is quite funny, if a little repetitive.

[MellySingsDoom]

sarramkrop - I suppose the "Lou and Andy" sketch offends some sensibilities, vis a vis taking the piss out of the handicapped (thereby missing the goddamn point of this particular sketch - it's the Andy character who always gets the upper hand). I don't mind the Brand actually, it's the "I'm a cockernee geeer" shtick that annoys me really.

[The Usher]

I find it strange that so many idiots on TV seem to be able to celebrate his "funny" side, while then looking all serious and saying "but rascism is bad". The man was a complete twat. Rascist jokes are often seen as acceptable as long as the person telling then is'nt rascist (I find this distinction difficult to imagine), but Manning was so full of hate. It is not at all sad that he's dead.

I don't find myself offended by anything on Little Britain myself, and that sketch with Lou and Andy is not offensive, but plain boring. I much prefer that school of comedians that includes Julia Davis, Steve Coogan, Chris Morris, Armando Iannucci, Patrick Marber (who also writes superb plays), Stewart Lee, Rob Brydon, Richard Herring. They make you laugh and they make you think about a number of subjects in much more of a comical way.

 

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[MellySingsDoom]

Very much agree, sarramkrop. Not able to give you rep for this. Sorry, dude.

The Usher - forgive me for turning into the spelling police, but it's "racist", not "rascist".

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

demonrail666 - how do you feel about Russell "gor blimey geez, me and my mate Noel Gallagher" Brand being a Hammer's supporter (and going on about it every weekend in the Grauniad)?

Well, I like Russell Brand and I like West Ham and I read the Guardian. I'm a liberal tosser, remember.