[krastian]

Yeah, now that your time is about up, start drilling and leave all the problems for the next guy....cool trick.


WASHINGTON - The White House says President Bush is planning to lift an executive ban on offshore oil drilling.

In a Rose Garden statement on Monday, the president plans to lift the ban. But by itself, the move will not lead to more drilling off America’s coastline.

Congress must still lift its own legislative ban before offshore drilling can happen.


Well, that part is good at least.

[tesla69]

there is no crime too great for the Bush Junta, protecting pedophiles in the Texas juvie system, ethnic cleansing of New Orleans, mass murder of Iraqi children, it just goes on and on....all these phoney flag wavers claiming we MUST DRILL TO BE A REAL PATRIOT won't admit that the oil will be sold at market rates, so even if it does end up in the US, and not in China or India, it will still cost $4 a gallon. Its not like the oil companies are compelled to provide the fuel to the US at non market rates. I doubt in the end they even pay the govt a royalty - they probably get to claim that as a deduction off their taxes.

[Cantankerous]

WOOHOO!



only 6 more months of this shit unless john mccain is elected.

[greedrex]

 

 

[marleypumpkin]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

WOOHOO!



only 6 more months of this shit unless john mccain is elected.

Or Obama for that matter. They're both the same people. Their party affiliation DOES NOT MATTER. They all are for the same agenda, the American Empire.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin

Or Obama for that matter. They're both the same people. Their party affiliation DOES NOT MATTER. They all are for the same agenda, the American Empire.

truth
i'm not voting because i don't like either of them. or any politician for that matter.
except maybe bob dole.

[pbradley]

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE.

 

I DRINK IT UP.

[marleypumpkin]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

truth
i'm not voting because i don't like either of them. or any politician for that matter.
except maybe bob dole.

Well, Bob Dole must be a Bob Dole kind of guy. (yes I know, corny joke. let's move on)

[MellySingsDoom]

marleypumpkin - There was a pretty good article in the Guardian last week about some of the policy reversals that Obama has made over the past few months. Such is the nature of politics I guess - compromise (at the very least) seems to always wins out over idealism in these times. From a British perspective, I'd much rather prefer Obama to McCain - strip away the "everyman" facade, and McCain comes across as a remarkably unplesasant and myopic person.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin

Well, Bob Dole must be a Bob Dole kind of guy. (yes I know, corny joke. let's move on)

the only reason why cantankerous admires bob dole is because he has an incredible habit of speaking about bob dole in third person.


bob dole.



and because bob dole likes to talk about viagra.

[marleypumpkin]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

marleypumpkin - There was a pretty good article in the Guardian last week about some of the policy reversals that Obama has made over the past few months. Such is the nature of politics I guess - compromise (at the very least) seems to always wins out over idealism in these times. From a British perspective, I'd much rather prefer Obama to McCain - strip away the "everyman" facade, and McCain comes across as a remarkably unplesasant and myopic person.

Image wise, it's an absolute fact that Obama has the better appeal, but appeal & Image are not what should decide general issues that effect the outcome of humanity.

[pbradley]

What do you want, Howard Dean? He was insane!

[Cantankerous]

if i had to choose any political party to be affiliated with it would be the libertarian party.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by marleypumpkin

Image wise, it's an absolute fact that Obama has the better appeal, but appeal & Image are not what should decide general issues that effect the outcome of humanity.

Oh, I certainly agree with you there. I read and pay as much attention to political issues as I can, even though the whole thing can sometime border on the depressing for me. How politicians can still get away with their bullshit and bluster in these supposedly media-aware times is something I still can't get my head around. I get wound-up just by listening to a few minutes of listening to the Radio 4 "Today" (politics-based early morning talk show) programme, especially when the current UK government arsewits are telling more porkies.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

if i had to choose any political party to be affiliated with it would be the libertarian party.

Cantanky - by "Libertarian", is that a party that comes from an anarchist perspective? (You'll have to excuse my relative ignorance of US politics). The older I get, the more I begin to really think of anarchism as the only decent alternative to the current system here in the UK.

[marleypumpkin]

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom

Cantanky - by "Libertarian", is that a party that comes from an anarchist perspective? (You'll have to excuse my relative ignorance of US politics). The older I get, the more I begin to really think of anarchism as the only decent alternative to the current system here in the UK.

Libertarian's believe in the rights of the individual. "Life, Liberty, & the pursuit of Happiness" That's the best way I can describe them. I would happily be associated w/ this party.

[MellySingsDoom]

marley - I guess my beliefs would follow those, but also take on a "collective" view, in that I'd look out for other people too and try to help them out the best I can. I'm not too sure whether that's more humanist than anarchist - I probably lie somewhere within both humanism & anarchy at the moment...the current "left-wing" movements here in the UK are a bad joke...

[Rob Instigator]

You should all join my political party.

I ahve started three churches, all failures, the last one a collosal failure, so now I am going to start a political action comitteee of FREAKS and sonic weirdos.

continue in the good doctor Thompson's work, craetinga true freak power coalition in the USA.
what are politicians sacre of more than anything in the world
organized voters, and it does not take that many. 300 phone cals and 200 letters and 500 emails are enough to turn government polciy around these days. who is with me?

[Cantankerous]

here, okay, i'll break it down for you

basically what libertarian means in the US is "government leave me the fuck alone"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberta...(United_States)

[pbradley]

A lot of Libertarians are also closet Radians.