The Japanese American Internment

atari 2600 · 05.29.2006, 06:40 PM

Was this the absolute low point in American history or was it necessary?

Please discuss.

Savage Clone · 05.29.2006, 06:48 PM

Well, slavery and the conquering of the indigenous peoples rank high in USA historical low points, but this one is right up there.
If it was so "necessary," it begs the question why they didn't incarcerate German Americans as well. Too easy for them to blend in with the rest of the country's white population for one, I guess.
I have heard the rationale of the Japanese being "newer immigrants," thus being "still too close" to the old country, and I don't buy it.
These were American citizens, and I see this as an absolute stain on our history along with many others.

atari 2600 · 05.29.2006, 07:00 PM

Thanks, Savage Clone, for getting things rolling.

& just think that on September 12th, 2001 the NSA started gathering phone records & on Sept 13-19 members of bin Laden's family are driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington, where they leave the country on a private plane when airports reopen three days after the attacks.

On another tangent:
Chinese own the security company in charge of LAX.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 05.29.2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Well, slavery and the conquering of the indigenous peoples rank high in USA historical low points, but this one is right up there.
If it was so "necessary," it begs the question why they didn't incarcerate German Americans as well. Too easy for them to blend in with the rest of the country's white population for one, I guess.
I have heard the rationale of the Japanese being "newer immigrants," thus being "still too close" to the old country, and I don't buy it.
These were American citizens, and I see this as an absolute stain on our history along with many others.

These are three things high school text books seem to avoid.

acousticrock87 · 05.29.2006, 07:43 PM

Japanese were kept in internment camps?! What?!

The rationale is that they weren't white and we didn't (still don't) understand their culture. Utter racism in my opinion.

krastian · 05.29.2006, 07:48 PM

^Yeah dude. All in all I think it was pretty unnecessary. I mean were all the Japanese Americans going to gang together and start some kind of a vigilante Army? I don't think so. Keyword Japanese Americans.

themawt71 · 05.29.2006, 08:09 PM

a lovely fear tactic.

Kallisti23chaos · 05.29.2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Well, slavery and the conquering of the indigenous peoples rank high in USA historical low points, but this one is right up there.
If it was so "necessary," it begs the question why they didn't incarcerate German Americans as well. Too easy for them to blend in with the rest of the country's white population for one, I guess.
I have heard the rationale of the Japanese being "newer immigrants," thus being "still too close" to the old country, and I don't buy it.
These were American citizens, and I see this as an absolute stain on our history along with many others.

Who Did What in the Where Now ??

Savage Clone · 05.29.2006, 08:29 PM

krastian · 05.29.2006, 08:35 PM

Ha ha.

atari 2600 · 05.29.2006, 08:49 PM

see, you can do it, AssBlaster. I'm floored. He actually does think about something other than himself...Bravo!
Now didn't that feel good to post something worthwhile?

I forgot to post this in the children's book thread.

atari 2600 · 05.29.2006, 08:51 PM

that's kick ass, thanks for contributing...no sarcasm there.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 05.29.2006, 08:53 PM

You know, as corny of a movie as the Karate Kid is, they confronted the issue pretty heavily. Kids today don't get to watch that movie. A fucking shame.

There are quite a few lows in US history- slavery, the trail of tears, japanese internment, bombing of Nagasaki, zippo raids.

umjammer atomsk · 05.29.2006, 09:32 PM

The Cabbage Patch Kids and Furby riots, too.

krastian · 05.29.2006, 09:34 PM

Don't forget the riots for Super Mario Bros. 3 either.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 05.29.2006, 10:14 PM

We've all forgot the election and re-election of W.

alyasa · 05.29.2006, 10:17 PM

America was also responsible for this:

kingcoffee · 05.29.2006, 11:05 PM

I wouldn't say that it was the lowest point in American history. It was pretty fucked up, definitely. But I have to say the very lowest pint in US history was the extermination, enslavement and genral screwing over of the Native American people. I mean seriously, white people killed off 99% of all indiginous people in North America. Not cool. Very evil. If there is a Hell I hope those responsible for this are there right now.

umjammer atomsk · 05.29.2006, 11:19 PM

Yes, I'm pretty damn sure that is the worst point.

acousticrock87 · 05.29.2006, 11:22 PM

Ironically, it was also the first point. So it was all uphill from there.

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You know, as corny of a movie as the Karate Kid is, they confronted the issue pretty heavily. Kids today don't get to watch that movie. A fucking shame.

The singer for one of the bands I saw last night had a Karate Kid shirt on...Some weird underground thing...

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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,287	Well, slavery and the conquering of the indigenous peoples rank high in USA historical low points, but this one is right up there. If it was so "necessary," it begs the question why they didn't incarcerate German Americans as well. Too easy for them to blend in with the rest of the country's white population for one, I guess. I have heard the rationale of the Japanese being "newer immigrants," thus being "still too close" to the old country, and I don't buy it. These were American citizens, and I see this as an absolute stain on our history along with many others.
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atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	Thanks, Savage Clone, for getting things rolling. & just think that on September 12th, 2001 the NSA started gathering phone records & on Sept 13-19 members of bin Laden's family are driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington, where they leave the country on a private plane when airports reopen three days after the attacks. On another tangent: Chinese own the security company in charge of LAX.
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acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	Japanese were kept in internment camps?! What?! The rationale is that they weren't white and we didn't (still don't) understand their culture. Utter racism in my opinion.
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krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	^Yeah dude. All in all I think it was pretty unnecessary. I mean were all the Japanese Americans going to gang together and start some kind of a vigilante Army? I don't think so. Keyword Japanese Americans. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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themawt71 the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 570	a lovely fear tactic.
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krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	Ha ha. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	see, you can do it, AssBlaster. I'm floored. He actually does think about something other than himself...Bravo! Now didn't that feel good to post something worthwhile? I forgot to post this in the children's book thread.
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atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	that's kick ass, thanks for contributing...no sarcasm there.
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	You know, as corny of a movie as the Karate Kid is, they confronted the issue pretty heavily. Kids today don't get to watch that movie. A fucking shame. There are quite a few lows in US history- slavery, the trail of tears, japanese internment, bombing of Nagasaki, zippo raids.
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umjammer atomsk the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 889	The Cabbage Patch Kids and Furby riots, too. __________________
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krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	Don't forget the riots for Super Mario Bros. 3 either. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	We've all forgot the election and re-election of W.
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alyasa invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,791	America was also responsible for this: __________________ Sab Kuch Tick Tock Hai
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05.29.2006, 11:05 PM	#18
kingcoffee expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,510	I wouldn't say that it was the lowest point in American history. It was pretty fucked up, definitely. But I have to say the very lowest pint in US history was the extermination, enslavement and genral screwing over of the Native American people. I mean seriously, white people killed off 99% of all indiginous people in North America. Not cool. Very evil. If there is a Hell I hope those responsible for this are there right now.
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umjammer atomsk the end of the ugly Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 889	Yes, I'm pretty damn sure that is the worst point. __________________
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