its here at last-the "american primitive thread"

fugazifan · 10.22.2008, 04:08 PM

it doesnt have to be american and doest have to be primitive, but let us all discuss the brilliance of the solo acoustic guitar
fahey
sir richard bishop
blackshaw
basho
E
T
C

go! talk amongst yourselves

Derek · 10.22.2008, 04:15 PM

let's make a big list of these type of players...

john fahey
sir richard bishop
james blackshaw
robbie basho
peter lang
ben chasny (six organs)

any more? atsonicpark around?

fugazifan · 10.22.2008, 04:21 PM

harry tausig
peter walker
steffen basho
Tetuzi Akiyama (i only know him from the wooden guitar comp)
jack rose
some jim orourke

Rob Instigator · 10.22.2008, 04:26 PM

early daniel johnston
he would play toy piano and acoustic guitar.

Derek · 10.22.2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fugazifan

harry tausig
peter walker
steffen basho
Tetuzi Akiyama (i only know him from the wooden guitar comp)
jack rose
some jim orourke

ah, Jack Rose, he slipped my mind.

blunderbuss · 10.22.2008, 04:46 PM

Chris Joynes
http://www.myspace.com/cjoynes
http://www.htrecords.co.uk/ht_videos/JoynesOne.mp4

jimbrim · 10.22.2008, 05:49 PM

Loren Mazzacane Connors
Glen Jones
Leo Kottke
Steffen Basho-Junghans (check out Late Summer Morning. Gorgeous)
Hisato Higuchi
Alexander Tucker

atsonicpark · 10.22.2008, 07:40 PM

Haha Daniel Johnston? That's not american primitive. That's outside pop.

- Robbie Basho
- Max Ochs
- Bukka White
- Harry Taussig
- Dick Rossimi
- Peter Lang
- Loren Mazzacane Connors
- Jack Rose
- John Fahey, the king
- Leo Kottke
- Wooden Spoon
- Pat O'Connell
- Andrew Stranglen
- Terry Robb
- Dale Miller
- Tetsui Akiyama
- Michael Gulezian
- Sandy Bull
- James Blackshaw
- Sir Richard Bishop
- Gillian Welch
- Sean Smith
- Glenn Jones
- Harris Newman
- Six Organs of Admittance
- (some) M. Ward
- (some) Jim O'Rourke
- Triple Burner
- Steffen Basho-Junghans
- George Stavis
- Bob Hadley
- Wayne Lopes
- Davey Graham (more bluesy than american primitive but would still be of interest)
- Bob Brozman (who played in many different styles but I think you'd dig if you like any of the above artists; a true slide guitar king)
- Mori Chieko (see above; related but not totally like the other artists)

Also, a lot of the work of Sonny Landreth and Ry Cooder and Captain Beefheart's magic band (see some of the instrumentals specifically) and Sun City Girls incorporate elements of American primitive guitar.

That list should get anyone who wants to get into this stuff in order.

The best genre of music ever.

atsonicpark · 10.22.2008, 07:49 PM

Everyone into american primitive and related styles should check out http://grapewrath.blogspot.com/ and their related links and also http://grown-so-ugly.blogspot.com/ ...

http://www.last.fm/group/Fingerstyle+Guitar

Great master thesis about american primitive guitar music:
http://www.nickschillace.com/thesis/

batreleaser · 10.22.2008, 08:04 PM

add tom and cristina carter to atsonicpark's list and im good.

batreleaser · 10.22.2008, 08:05 PM

anne briigs, dylan, and bert jansch as well

atsonicpark · 12.01.2008, 08:31 AM

Yes, that christina carter - original darkness.. one of my favorites of the year.

I've become totally obsessed with Steffen Basho-Junghans as of late. I think he's the best guitarist around right now. Just amazing stuff.

Toilet & Bowels · 12.01.2008, 08:51 AM

how does christina carter fit into this genre? she's way too interesting.

aside from fahey & basho the rest of these fuckers can take a hike.
i don't get the interest around james blackshaw i've seen him play 3 or 4 times, and i think he's boring.

tetuzi akiyama is way better when he's not doing this finger picking crap.

Derek · 12.01.2008, 09:03 AM

James Blackshaw... boring?

atsonicpark · 12.01.2008, 09:05 AM

original darkness definitely has the american primitive sound...

James Blackshaw is brilliant. Dunno if I'd want to watch him live though, sure.

noisereductions · 12.01.2008, 09:06 AM

Animal Collective? Like on CAMPFIRE SONGS?

Derek · 12.01.2008, 09:10 AM

Nah, not PRIMITIVEEEEEE enough.

I'd enjoy seeing James Blackshaw live, though I guess non-musicians would probably be bored watching him.

Toilet & Bowels · 12.01.2008, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

Nah, not PRIMITIVEEEEEE enough.

I'd enjoy seeing James Blackshaw live, though I guess non-musicians would probably be bored watching him.

maybe you should check out dream theater, they're the worst band of all time, but they're popular with a certain type of music student?

Derek · 12.01.2008, 09:17 AM

well I think Dream Theater are horrible, obviously music for musicians. what I was meaning though was that in a LIVE setting, James Blackshaw would be boring to non-musicians. Dream Theater are for musicians in an album context, while James isn't.

noisereductions · 12.01.2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

maybe you should check out dream theater, they're the worst band of all time, but they're popular with a certain type of music student?

hahahaha, so eliquently put.

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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Haha Daniel Johnston? That's not american primitive. That's outside pop. - Robbie Basho - Max Ochs - Bukka White - Harry Taussig - Dick Rossimi - Peter Lang - Loren Mazzacane Connors - Jack Rose - John Fahey, the king - Leo Kottke - Wooden Spoon - Pat O'Connell - Andrew Stranglen - Terry Robb - Dale Miller - Tetsui Akiyama - Michael Gulezian - Sandy Bull - James Blackshaw - Sir Richard Bishop - Gillian Welch - Sean Smith - Glenn Jones - Harris Newman - Six Organs of Admittance - (some) M. Ward - (some) Jim O'Rourke - Triple Burner - Steffen Basho-Junghans - George Stavis - Bob Hadley - Wayne Lopes - Davey Graham (more bluesy than american primitive but would still be of interest) - Bob Brozman (who played in many different styles but I think you'd dig if you like any of the above artists; a true slide guitar king) - Mori Chieko (see above; related but not totally like the other artists) Also, a lot of the work of Sonny Landreth and Ry Cooder and Captain Beefheart's magic band (see some of the instrumentals specifically) and Sun City Girls incorporate elements of American primitive guitar. That list should get anyone who wants to get into this stuff in order. The best genre of music ever. __________________
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Everyone into american primitive and related styles should check out http://grapewrath.blogspot.com/ and their related links and also http://grown-so-ugly.blogspot.com/ ... http://www.last.fm/group/Fingerstyle+Guitar Great master thesis about american primitive guitar music: http://www.nickschillace.com/thesis/ __________________
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batreleaser invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 5,155	add tom and cristina carter to atsonicpark's list and im good.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Yes, that christina carter - original darkness.. one of my favorites of the year. I've become totally obsessed with Steffen Basho-Junghans as of late. I think he's the best guitarist around right now. Just amazing stuff. __________________
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	how does christina carter fit into this genre? she's way too interesting. aside from fahey & basho the rest of these fuckers can take a hike. i don't get the interest around james blackshaw i've seen him play 3 or 4 times, and i think he's boring. tetuzi akiyama is way better when he's not doing this finger picking crap.
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	James Blackshaw... boring?
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	original darkness definitely has the american primitive sound... James Blackshaw is brilliant. Dunno if I'd want to watch him live though, sure. __________________
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Nah, not PRIMITIVEEEEEE enough. I'd enjoy seeing James Blackshaw live, though I guess non-musicians would probably be bored watching him.
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	well I think Dream Theater are horrible, obviously music for musicians. what I was meaning though was that in a LIVE setting, James Blackshaw would be boring to non-musicians. Dream Theater are for musicians in an album context, while James isn't.
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