[Shaka Moloch]

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[static-harmony]

Well if you don't pay have a good time in jail.

[alyasa]

I think your sig's got it the other way around. The country(any country) belongs to its government and they have a right to throw out anyone(the people) they grow weary of.

[truncated]

While I'm all for advocating the cause 'n that, one must weigh the benefits and deficits of being subject to financial policies of the American government.

By accepting a position of employment in the first place, you agreed to pay taxes.

These taxes, while perhaps disproportionate to the various economic strata, help fund:

-Social security when you are too goddamn old to function, let alone work;
-Property development projects, to provide jobs for poor lazy bastards such as yourself;
-Public transportation, to haul your poor lazy ass around town until you can afford a Yugo;
-Education financing, to enlighten and empower ignorant poor lazy bastards;
-Law enforcement, to reduce the crime rate that puts an economic strain on state and federal budgets, that result in higher taxes for you poor lazy bastards;
-Urban upkeep, so when your poor lazy ass becomes transient for owing too much in back taxes, you get to keep warm with piles of discarded newspapers instead of drifts of dogshit and rotting Greek produce.

Fork it over, Skippy.

 

Edit - Disclaimer: I'm not actually calling you a poor lazy bastard. I'm just cranky, and quite fatigued by extreme leftists lately. Again, not that you're necessarily an extreme leftist. You were just a well-presented target.

Piss off now.

[alyasa]

Baaa...

[golden child]

yeah man FUCK TAXES.

[truncated]

You're all asshats.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by truncated

I'm just cranky, and quite fatigued by extreme leftists lately.

no love for the daddy?

 

[alyasa]

With Asian technology and Western spirituality, we are all going to fucking Hell

[truncated]

Peaches, you can't do stream-of-consciousness when you're talking about taxes. Make some sense, or get your ass to the post office and send the IRS a check.

Fuckin' poets.

[acousticrock87]

If this thread is indeed serious, which I slightly doubt: America was founded on Locke's principles, which include the right to a revolution. However, seeing as how that would involve a major violent coup and civil war, it just doesn't work like that. You can fuck taxes all you want. I'm sure they'll get a good kick out of it when you try to make a case.

[screamingskull]

i dont get taxed from what i earn at work, thats one good thing about being a teenager.

[atari 2600]

Skaka Moloch, you may not be familiar with some of the political threads we've had here in the past, but I wanted to let you know about something that I've written about a few times before because it relates to the quote that you use in your signature (& also to this topic "Protest" too).

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember and overthrow it."

The quote you use from Lincoln's inaugural address is akin to some great Jefferson quotes as well. At the end of the quote it says, "...they can exercise their constitutional right to amend or their revolutionary right to dismember & overthrow it." So, that leaves "exercise their constitutional right to amend" the first course of action for "to the people whenever they have grown weary of the existing government."
What I've proposed before is a constitutional amendment that limits all terms of (at least major) political office to only one term. To me, this more than campaign finance reform (which will never get off the ground anyway because there will always be loopholes) is the only solution to solving the crisis of corruption in which our government & our nation finds itself.

[acousticrock87]

Except that anything like that will take 10,000 years to even make it to the polls.

[atari 2600]

Well, if it were truly a movement & it got shot down then the same unified force of people calling for the amendment would have every reason to demand action or else as they are then forced to follow Lincoln's protocol to revolution by less diplomatic means.

[alyasa]

But the crux of the matter is, in today's climate of hostility, tension and self-preservation, things are not always so clearly drawn, are they? What would constitute shot down? Would your revolutionary right be so obvious if your ideals and/or values were discredited by a media spin and the might of the White House press relations office?

[acousticrock87]

I believe rebellion is the reason the government is so strong here. It scares the people in power, and when they stop the rebellion (which they almost certainly will as the country stands right now) they'll just jack up security even more and mass paranoia will ensue.

"The events of Shays' Rebellion over the coming months would strengthen the hands of those who wanted a stronger central government, and persuade many who had been undecided as to the need for such a radical change. One of the key figures, George Washington, who had long been cool to the idea of strong centralized government, was frightened by the events in Massachusetts. By January 1787, he decided to come out of retirement and to attend the convention being called for the coming May in Philadelphia. At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a new, stronger government would be created under the United States Constitution, a constitution that would give the president a striking amount of power."

[Iain]

Originally Posted by truncated

Peaches, you can't do stream-of-consciousness when you're talking about taxes. Make some sense, or get your ass to the post office and send the IRS a check.

Fuckin' poets.

His previous post seemed less stream of conciousness and more about playing World of Warcraft which, to someone who knows nothing of WoW, would seem like a a long trail of incoherent dribble. (for the record I don't play WoW, I just know a few people who are hopelessly devoted to living as much of their lives as possible in an artificial reality. (yeah, we could go into the whole nature of reality thing but I don't have the energy))

[Cantankerous]

don't want to pay it? have fun getting your asshole reamed in prison, you cheapskate bastard.

[Cantankerous]

check this out,

i don't give a shit.