[fishmonkey]

in light of Saddam the big bollox getting the old noose..

i ask you

Do you agree with the Death Penalty?

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

yes

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

No.

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

Yes.

[Gulasch Noir]

No. Thank God, we have the ECHR here, which forbids it without exception.

[Torn Curtain]

No.

[cuetzpalin]

no!!

[Florya]

no.

[jon boy]

no . its very, very wrong.

[Stijn]

No, ooh all the state against one person

[Bastian]

No, I do not agree with the death penalty. It should be abolished.

I do however accept exceptions, where I think the death penalty is justified: when it comes to war criminals and dictators.

For instance, it was right to hang the Nazi leaders after the Nuremberg tribunal. It would have been terrible to have the elite of the 3rd Reich stay alive in jail for a few decades until they die off. It was discusting enough to see Albert Speer get away with a life sentence.

It was also right to hang Adolf Eichmann. I would not have wanted that bastard to serve a life sentence. The world is far better off without him.

But I don't think that the death penalty is justified to punish "normal" murderers or rapists, for a lot of reasons. One being justice can be (and often is) wrong. You just can't revive a dead person after you found out he was innocent.

[Isoflurane]

Yeah, there are a lot of problems with the death penalty, and plenty of reasons to oppose it.

One of the most popular reasons has to do with the statistics showing that blacks and mexicans are more likely to get the death penalty than their white counterparts. I think that this argument has sort of fallen by the wayside because of some mitigation of statistics. I don't know though, sociology just kills me and I can't get interested in the shit. There are too many values involved.

The reason I'm not for it is because we can never know for certain if someone did something or not. I mean, there are plenty of people released every year because it was decided they did not in fact commit the crime. As someone who was wrongfully accused of a crime, and almost got in some Big Time trouble because of it, this point sort of hits home with me.

[terminal pharmacy]

the simplest reason to oppose it - what if it is the wrong person

[Prisstina]

No. A quick lethal injection or other method of execution is much more humane than letting the accused suffer in jail the rest of their life. Most forms of execution are fairly painless and certainly do not teach the criminal the lesson they should be taught. Spending the remainder of their life in jail, however, is painful emotionally and mentally (and sometimes physically) and is much more appropriate.

[_slavo_]

i do agree.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by Prisstina

No. A quick lethal injection or other method of execution is much more humane than letting the accused suffer in jail the rest of their life. Most forms of execution are fairly painless and certainly do not teach the criminal the lesson they should be taught. Spending the remainder of their life in jail, however, is painful emotionally and mentally (and sometimes physically) and is much more appropriate.

actually lethal injection is quite painful as the person can feel their internal organs being slowly stopped. electric chair is the modern day equivelant of being burnt at the stake and the gas chamber is too horrible to even go into. hanging can go wrong and the person may have a slow death by strangulation.

its far worse for a person to lose all their rights and be kept inside for the rest of their life and the amount of people who are miscariages of justice only goes to highlight the dangers of execution.

[Glice]

There was a drunken conversation I was party to recently that suggested we should have the death penalty for everything. No fucker'd do anything wrong, ever, under those conditions. Absurd, yes. But there's an element of truth there, surely?

NB - the bleeding heart liberal in me says 'no', and unfortunately he tends to win out. The cunt.

[The Lung]

I think all paedophiles should be tortured and fucking burned. I am sick of hearing about the ones that get let out of jail and then go rape another innocent kid. They should get the worst death in the world.

I also think that the familys of the people who have been murdered should be able to at least beat the shit out of the murderer. I would be against the death penalty but the number of people who get out jail after a few years and then go do the same evil shit should be killed.

[Bastian]

Originally Posted by The Lung

I think all paedophiles should be tortured and fucking burned. I am sick of hearing about the ones that get let out of jail and then go rape another innocent kid. They should get the worst death in the world.

I disagree.. those guys are not normal criminals but very sick human beings. Not that I feel any sympathy for them. But instead of torturing or killing them, they simply need to be locked away forever to protect the children.

[Bastian]

Originally Posted by Glice

There was a drunken conversation I was party to recently that suggested we should have the death penalty for everything. No fucker'd do anything wrong, ever, under those conditions. Absurd, yes. But there's an element of truth there, surely?

I don't think so. Deterrence doesn't work that well, because every criminal thinks that they won't catch him.