The Wonder - Hyperstation is my all time favourite Sonic Youth "song".

Skuj · 05.07.2009, 07:57 PM

Yes, I know, it's two-thirds of Trilogy, with Eliminator Jr on the end. But Eliminator really is a very seperate sounding piece, isn't it? Meanwhile, The Wonder flows so smoothly and beautifully into Hyperstation, and Hyperstation has a definite fade-out kind of ending. The two parts make one monumental song. Eliminator....um....eliminates that feeling. Eliminator would be so great right after Kissability, I think.

I wish Daydream Nation ended on that final, quiet Hyperstation note, instead of the "fuck you" of Eliminator Jr.

Am I alone in this regard?

Alan ciccone · 05.07.2009, 08:45 PM

think you're right

joe11121 · 05.07.2009, 09:09 PM

Yeah I agree. Eliminator Jr would have been perfect after Kissability, then The Wonder + Hyperstation to finish a perfect album.

Peterpuff · 05.07.2009, 09:45 PM

I have to totally agree as well, actually.

Magic Wheel Memory · 05.07.2009, 10:22 PM

I can definitely see it. It would leave you with that spacy (not Kevin), daydreamy feeling, not to mention that it has the album's titular lyric. At the same time, I always kind of liked the Eliminator ending. It's so hard to say which would be better after loving this record for the past 19 years.

But Wonder/Hyperstation is fucking incredible.

Now, you have me thinking that a good discussion topic would be alternative track sequences for SY albums.

Skuj · 05.07.2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory

I can definitely see it. It would leave you with that spacy (not Kevin), daydreamy feeling, not to mention that it has the album's titular lyric. At the same time, I always kind of liked the Eliminator ending. It's so hard to say which would be better after loving this record for the past 19 years.

But Wonder/Hyperstation is fucking incredible.

Now, you have me thinking that a good discussion topic would be alternative track sequences for SY albums.

Hahaha....I could do that forever. There is not one album that I've loved where I didn't feel a desperate need to rearrange the tracks into something that I deemed better. But that's my issue, not the Artist's, LOL.

(The White Album should have ended with Rev 9 as an unlisted track after Goodnight. Go to sleep, then, have a fucking nightmare, "number 9....number 9".....hahahaha.....)

Oh fuck I need help.

exploding plastic candle · 05.07.2009, 10:58 PM

I used to completely agree with that point, I thought Eliminator Jr. was a poor finish to an amazing album. Then I learned to never question Sonic Youth, especially during that period, and in a way it's a fitting end to the album. It sums up the records different eccentricities well and serves as a pretty chilling ending. that being said I think it's by far the worst song on the album.

mushmanski57@hotmail.com · 05.07.2009, 11:00 PM

KIDS CRUISE AWAY...

PACK OF CHICKENSHITS.

That being said, I agree completely with exploding plastic candle.

Kuhb · 05.07.2009, 11:22 PM

I thought ending EVOL with bubblegum was a bit out of context. From the darkness and mood of the album to this poppy song with blues licks. But then again, thats whats great about SY.. not taking themselves too seriously.

exploding plastic candle · 05.07.2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuhb

I thought ending EVOL with bubblegum was a bit out of context. From the darkness and mood of the album to this poppy song with blues licks. But then again, thats whats great about SY.. not taking themselves too seriously.

that's not the real ending, that's just a bonus track they added on the end of the cd re-release. dumb, I know. Same thing with Master-Dik during Sister, except MD isn't quiteee as out of place.

Kuhb · 05.08.2009, 12:26 AM

Right!, I knew about the Master-Dik. Oh well.. haha

Skuj · 05.08.2009, 12:57 AM

Oh Man I love Master-Dik, hahaha......such an overlooked / under-rated song. But I digress.

Kuhb · 05.08.2009, 01:17 AM

Taste my love!!!.....yeah!

Rob Instigator · 05.08.2009, 09:00 AM

NO

the big FUCK YOU of Eliminator Jr reminds us that sonic youth' is there to skronkrawk, not to provide you with sleepytime bed jams. ELIMINATOR JR RULES!

Skuj · 05.08.2009, 12:04 PM

Well, maybe it should have followed Diamond Sea then.

EVOLghost · 05.08.2009, 12:26 PM

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Well, maybe it should have followed Diamond Sea then.

I can agree with that...however my ALL TIME FAVORITE~!EQWY#(4 song would probably have to be Kill Yr Idols.

dasx · 05.08.2009, 02:08 PM

I think it's great that Eliminator Jr. comes right when listener has fallen into a trance of Hyperstation.

EVOLghost · 05.08.2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by exploding plastic candle

that's not the real ending, that's just a bonus track they added on the end of the cd re-release. dumb, I know. Same thing with Master-Dik during Sister, except MD isn't quiteee as out of place.

I don't think adding MD was a bad thing for Sister....I mean...MD is fucking awesome. But yeah....they definately need to get rid of Bubblegum on EVOL.

alteredcourse · 05.08.2009, 02:45 PM

I'll have to agree with Rob....that big jolt at the end was a part of what made DN such a memorable album when I was getting into them.

joe11121 · 05.08.2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

NO

the big FUCK YOU of Eliminator Jr reminds us that sonic youth' is there to skronkrawk, not to provide you with sleepytime bed jams. ELIMINATOR JR RULES!

Fuck yeah!!

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Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,825	Yes, I know, it's two-thirds of Trilogy, with Eliminator Jr on the end. But Eliminator really is a very seperate sounding piece, isn't it? Meanwhile, The Wonder flows so smoothly and beautifully into Hyperstation, and Hyperstation has a definite fade-out kind of ending. The two parts make one monumental song. Eliminator....um....eliminates that feeling. Eliminator would be so great right after Kissability, I think. I wish Daydream Nation ended on that final, quiet Hyperstation note, instead of the "fuck you" of Eliminator Jr. Am I alone in this regard? __________________ March 15th. June 15th. September 15th. December 15th.
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joe11121 expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brantford, Canada Posts: 1,843	Yeah I agree. Eliminator Jr would have been perfect after Kissability, then The Wonder + Hyperstation to finish a perfect album.
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Peterpuff stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 505	I have to totally agree as well, actually.
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Magic Wheel Memory the end of the ugly Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nowhere, NJ Posts: 836	I can definitely see it. It would leave you with that spacy (not Kevin), daydreamy feeling, not to mention that it has the album's titular lyric. At the same time, I always kind of liked the Eliminator ending. It's so hard to say which would be better after loving this record for the past 19 years. But Wonder/Hyperstation is fucking incredible. Now, you have me thinking that a good discussion topic would be alternative track sequences for SY albums. __________________ www.myspace.com/infinityad
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exploding plastic candle children of satan Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 288	I used to completely agree with that point, I thought Eliminator Jr. was a poor finish to an amazing album. Then I learned to never question Sonic Youth, especially during that period, and in a way it's a fitting end to the album. It sums up the records different eccentricities well and serves as a pretty chilling ending. that being said I think it's by far the worst song on the album.
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mushmanski57@hotmail.com stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 409	KIDS CRUISE AWAY... PACK OF CHICKENSHITS. That being said, I agree completely with exploding plastic candle.
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Kuhb children of satan Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 338	I thought ending EVOL with bubblegum was a bit out of context. From the darkness and mood of the album to this poppy song with blues licks. But then again, thats whats great about SY.. not taking themselves too seriously.
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Kuhb children of satan Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 338	Right!, I knew about the Master-Dik. Oh well.. haha
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Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,825	Oh Man I love Master-Dik, hahaha......such an overlooked / under-rated song. But I digress. __________________ March 15th. June 15th. September 15th. December 15th.
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Kuhb children of satan Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 338	Taste my love!!!.....yeah!
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	NO the big FUCK YOU of Eliminator Jr reminds us that sonic youth' is there to skronkrawk, not to provide you with sleepytime bed jams. ELIMINATOR JR RULES! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Skuj invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Location: See My Top 10. Posts: 2,825	Well, maybe it should have followed Diamond Sea then. __________________ March 15th. June 15th. September 15th. December 15th.
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dasx children of satan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 307	I think it's great that Eliminator Jr. comes right when listener has fallen into a trance of Hyperstation. __________________ www.soundcloud.com/black-spy www.soundcloud.com/haikala
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alteredcourse expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,503	I'll have to agree with Rob....that big jolt at the end was a part of what made DN such a memorable album when I was getting into them.
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